We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:28:56 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification I think I owe the Gunnies something... and what the heck, there's an Easter Egg (in the computer software sense) in there, too. And for those recoiling in shock and horror - anything you see in that picture is legal where I live, in the condition it's in - which means things that look like full-auto, aren't. They're either deactivated/dummies or semi-auto. Which means, for example, that Carl Gustav in there has a bore-sized hole in the barrel (thoughtfully cut so that the cheek pad covers it) and that PIAT was removed from the NFA list years ago, and transfers... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:41:34 -0600 Try a croquet ball. They don't slow down as fast as tennis balls. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72136 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72136 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:51:48 -0600 Hmm, "took it off the NFA list..." I've seen some fairly good drawings of PIAT projectiles. I betcha we could make a nerf version, with propellant but no bursting charge, which would be fun to shoot like a spud gun. Of course, I want a younger and more limber person than I to cock the thing for the first shot. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72068 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72068 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:49:09 -0600 Oh, and Kat? All you have to do is drive out here. Just call ahead to make sure we're home. Ry will be out visiting in two weeks, btw. We could convene a mini-blogmeet. Oh..goody. I get to pound him in person? I'll definitely come out for that.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72066 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72066 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:13:56 -0600 10-4 roger. My friend has been last year with some 101 Vets. Jack and John of the recent book fame. My friend wants to go back with less tour control. If I can convince him London would be better maybe we can stretch it there. This is my first trip so I'm super ready for all the tourist places. He can show me many not so tourist places. One is the farm where Winters and team took out the howitzers. They also make some kind of hard cider. Thanks John. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72060 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72060 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:20:47 -0600 Well, the Imperial War Museum is *always* a good choice, as is Firepower, the new name of the Woolwich Rotunda museum. Hard to say. And if you have the time - go to the HMS Belfast *and* the Tower Armouries. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72059 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72059 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:03:07 -0600 John, A good friend and I are planning to take a trip to Normandy and Bastogne this SEP, coming back with a one day stop over in London. Which Meuseum do you recomend in London? Royal Artillery? We want to see lots of guns and stuff. A lounge crawl is already on the agenda. If anyone else has a suggestion, I'm flexible. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72056 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72056 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:12:46 -0600 Oh. I forgot to add this to the post! I'm terribly bitter and I think I'll go thump my bible under the crucifix upstairs. Oh, please, people. Outta the gutter! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72050 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72050 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:22:11 -0600 Wolfwalker - it is a trench mace. But since that's a real, seen-service weapon, it's not an Easter Egg in the sense the phaser is. Ry - heh. You volunteered, boyo. Dincha hear the Drill Sergeant say "You'll be sorreeeeeee!" in the background? Charodey - welcome to the Castle Echo. No worries. Just a small technical quibble - sabot. It's not an acronym itself. Ry - I'll show you one when you get here. When you look at an APFSDS, you're looking at a sub-caliber dart with a bore-diameter carrier that peels away after it leaves the muzzle, effectively concentrating the power of all the power of the gun on a much smaller cross-section of projectile. The spike protruding from a HEAT round contains the fuzing element, being carried just far enough in front of the cone of explosive so that the optimum jet of plasma will be formed by the shaped charge when the round impacts. I'll show you that, too. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72042 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72042 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:17:10 -0600 Only one easter egg? I thought I saw two. What's the thing on top of the case, next to the shovel? Rusty colored pipe-shaped thing, looks kinda like a mace or a morning star. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72041 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72041 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:52:12 -0600 Oops, sorry about the double post. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72040 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72040 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:50:15 -0600 About the round, okay, but it is it fin stabilized? In the little amount(very little) of lit I've actually read about this type of thing it's not real clear if APFSDS is the same as High Explosive Anti-Tank. They look the same to me(thin rod on the front), so are they the same? Not the same at all. APFSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding SABO. The projectile is a solid chunk of depleted uranium and much smaller than the bore of the cannon from which it is fired. It has rings around it of the same dimension as the cannon bore so that it can be fired and these fall away once it has been fired. (That is the "Discarding" part of the acronym.) Thus is is a VERY high speed projectile made of very hard material enabling it to be armor piercing. The thin rod on the front is the actual round that goes down range. HEAT, as you can tell from the acronym, is a high explosive shape charge round. The thin rod on the front of this round is the fuse that ignites the shape charge just before the main body of the round impacts. This causes a spear of hot plasma from the explosion to be what actually penetrates the armor. And Yes, it is fin stabilized as the shape of the round is not very aerodynamic.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72039 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72039 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:49:27 -0600 About the round, okay, but it is it fin stabilized? In the little amount(very little) of lit I've actually read about this type of thing it's not real clear if APFSDS is the same as High Explosive Anti-Tank. They look the same to me(thin rod on the front), so are they the same? Not the same at all. APFSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding SABO. The projectile is a solid chunk of depleted uranium and much smaller than the bore of the cannon from which it is fired. It has rings around it of the same dimension as the cannon bore so that it can be fired and these fall away once it has been fired. (That is the "Discarding" part of the acronym.) Thus is is a VERY high speed projectile made of very hard material enabling it to be armor piercing. The thin rod on the front is the actual round that goes down range. HEAT, as you can tell from the acronym, is a high explosive shape charge round. The thin rod on the front of this round is the fuse that ignites the shape charge just before the main body of the round impacts. This causes a spear of hot plasma from the explosion to be what actually penetrates the armor. And Yes, it is fin stabilized as the shape of the round is not very aerodyanic.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72038 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72038 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:48:35 -0600 Yup. Slave labor. John finally got his humongo hands around my scrawny neck and the only way to get out of the elvish rope(it burnsss ussssss) was to do yardwork. About the round, okay, but it is it fin stabilized? In the little amount(very little) of lit I've actually read about this type of thing it's not real clear if APFSDS is the same as High Explosive Anti-Tank. They look the same to me(thin rod on the front), so are they the same? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72034 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72034 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:16:43 -0600 Oh, and Kat? All you have to do is drive out here. Just call ahead to make sure we're home. Ry will be out visiting in two weeks, btw. We could convene a mini-blogmeet. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72029 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72029 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:36:22 -0600 Ry - I bet you *not* everybody sees that ST thing. Fishmugger - there's 7 cats, that's a thought! Actually in the New Castle, it has been much easier to keep things clean. In the auld Castle, there were several locations which seemed to be dust attractors. Thus far, the air flow in the Arms Room has not produced much dust. I get more gunk on the carpet from walking in from the back yard than I get dust, so keeping things in order hasn't been a problem. But I've not gone through a full summer yet, either, when the dust issue may be more severe than thus far. Weapons which get a regular workout have a light coat of oil. Those which don't, and their finishes support it, have been waxed, so they stay nice and shiny (if appropriate) and the dust just wipes away with a shop rag. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72026 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72026 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:47:15 -0600 didn't break the law... So it's become an unofficial tradition in some quarters of the Federation to support the law by breaking it at every opportunity. Depending on the law, natch. :) ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72025 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72025 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:45:37 -0600 John...how many elves do you have helping you keep all that stuff clean?? Or do you just tie a Swiffer to the cats tail and chase is around the room? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72023 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72023 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:35:22 -0600 Ry - no, that's a HEAT round, next to the white round, which is an illumination round, by the way. Pastor Dave - I'll send you an email. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72022 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72022 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:34:30 -0600 Okay, everyone sees the ST thing, but is that a APFSDS round next to the white jacketed round in the middle on top of the dsiplay case? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72021 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72021 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:28:47 -0600 I have a question...My Mom just passed away- I am paying for a funeral. My Dad brought home from the War a Polish Lugar 1935; Radom. Would this be worth much? Thanks, Pastor Dave in West Texas http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72019 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72019 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:05:31 -0600 No, they were different posts. You didn't look closely. 8^ ) One was entitled "Arsenal Update," the other "Arms Room Update." http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72016 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72016 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:30:40 -0600 Double post (you that is) But, when do I get a private tour? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72015 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72015 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:27:10 -0600 What, no phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72014 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72014 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:26:47 -0600 Set phasers on stun. LOL http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72012 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/04/arsenal_update.html#comment-72012 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:08:35 -0600