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  <updated>2008-08-03T16:01:59Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for Work gets in the way sometimes.  So, a Whatziss!</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-03-12T10:35:46Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-09T12:52:23Z</updated>
    <title>Work gets in the way sometimes.  So, a Whatziss!</title>
    <summary>Or email does. I was going to do a nice, longish post this morning, but a small blog-controversy got dropped in my lap this morning (blast and heat from something going on in comments over at Blackfive) and my response ate my blogtime today. So, I&apos;ll go with something a little shorter, for the gunnies who still visit. Heh. This post is, in a weird way, tangentially related to that derailing email this morning... Simple enough, and both easy and hard. Hard depends on how much a geek on the topic you are, and which rabbit holes your geekiness takes...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Or email does.  I was going to do a nice, longish post this morning, but a small blog-controversy got dropped in my lap this morning (blast and heat from something going on in comments over at Blackfive) and my response ate my blogtime today.</p>

<p>So, I'll go with something a little shorter, for the gunnies who still visit.  </p>

<p>Heh.  This post is, in a weird way, tangentially related to that derailing email this morning...</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/18722FB1D1BF62E/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="So, what are they - and which ones do they go with."></p>

<p>Simple enough, and both easy and hard.  Hard depends on how much a geek on the topic you are, and which rabbit holes your geekiness takes you down.</p>

<p>1.  Are they all the same thing?  If so, what are they?  If not - well, what are they?  Careful how you decide your sets for the Venn diagram.</p>

<p>2.  After you've figured out what they are - what are they components of?</p>

<p>There's sneakiness hiding in there.  I am the Armorer after all, and that's a trait when it comes to the Whatziss'</p>

<p>And I know, I owe you an answer from last week's whatziss.  Blame Cannoneer #4, he who sent me the blog-ambushing email this morning!</p>

<p>If you just *have* to have a larger version of the pic - <strong><a href="http://www.fototime.com/43107FEE118193E/orig.jpg">click here</a></strong>.</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8877-comment:70730</id>
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    <title>Comment from KCSteve on 2008-03-13</title>
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        <name>KCSteve</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[PSL - the Romanian version of the Russian Dragunov sniper rifle.  Outwardly similar but the somewhat fiddly Dragunov mechanism is replaced by an 'AK on steroids' version.  I was <b>sure</b> you've posted about having one.  7.62x54R - the oldest cartridge still in military service and the last remnant of the Imperial Russian Army of the Czars.]]>
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    <published>2008-03-13T18:19:18Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-13T18:19:18Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8877-comment:70710</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-03-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Fetish?  FETISH?

Yeah, well, okay.
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    <published>2008-03-13T00:46:44Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-13T00:46:44Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8877-comment:70708</id>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2008-03-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trias</name>
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        All i can say is they are all mechanical components, probably spin and lock, designed for reliability.  Awfully small.

1) Of course they aren&apos;t the same the triangle goes in the triangle hole and the square goes in the square hole...

2) knowing your fetish with guns and arty probably part of one of those.
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    <published>2008-03-13T00:39:10Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-13T00:39:10Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8877-comment:70684</id>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2008-03-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>J.M. Heinrichs</name>
        
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        Prehensile Scrofulous Limber.

Cheers
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    <published>2008-03-12T20:05:25Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-12T20:05:25Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-03-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        I&apos;ve got a PSL?  What&apos;s a PSL?
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    <published>2008-03-12T19:41:16Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-12T19:41:16Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8877-comment:70680</id>
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    <title>Comment from KCSteve on 2008-03-12</title>
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        <![CDATA[I agree that they all appear to be bolts and that the center one appears to be M16 / AR15.

Right hand one (as I look at the photo) doesn't look like the bolt of either an AK-47 or my PSL, as best I can remember.  Somewhat similar, but no match.

The beast on the left (as I look at the photo) is longer and more comlex.  Now <b>it</b> looks a lot like the bolt assembly from an AK but since it's longer than the reference bolt in the center (and because I know John has one) I'm guessing it's the bolt from a PSL.

That leaves the bolt on the right as our 'mystery bolt' - and with John hinting that there's some sneakiness involved I'm guessing it's not a <b>rifle</b> bolt.  Similarities to the M16 bolt - especially in the way it cams into place - but a much more robust looking extractor claw.  Possibly from a mounted gun, as might be found on an aircraft?

Just guesswork and imperfect memory - I'm stuck behind the Firewall of Idiocy here at work so no hope of invoking Google for help.]]>
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    <published>2008-03-12T19:32:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pogue on 2008-03-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Pogue</name>
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        Left is AK variant, looks like 7.62x39 by the bolt face and extractor, middle is M16/AR-15 5.56mm, and I have no clue what the one on the right is, although the bolt face looks to be 5.56 (5.45?) mm there bouts...  It sure doesn&apos;t look like the bolt in my SKS.
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    <published>2008-03-12T17:26:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-03-12</title>
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        So far, we&apos;ve established that the warriors know their Colt products.
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    <published>2008-03-12T16:16:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MR T&apos;s Haircut on 2008-03-12</title>
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        Middle - AR15 
Right - SKS
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    <published>2008-03-12T11:49:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jon The Mechanic on 2008-03-12</title>
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        On the left is the bolt to an M-249 SAW, the center is a bolt for an M-16/AR-15, and the right is unsure. (my guess is AK-47)
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    <published>2008-03-12T11:32:12Z</published>
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