We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:01:08 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Me. Want. Seeing as how I'm in England (going to Fwance tomorrow), my time to elaborate is limited. I will do so ASAP. In the meantime, suffice it to say this airplane is the aviation equivalent to a cannon that can shoot around a corner. That is all -Attila... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:40 -0600 LongTabSigO, that's not saying much! :) After all, the Mitsubishi A6M was far more maneuverable than anything we Americans had for a long time, but they still got chewed up at prodigious rate. The irony is that -for all the talk about dogfighting- virtually all WW2 US fighters emphasized speed and acceleration over maneuverability; mainly because America made the best radials around, and Rolls-Royce dominated the in-line market... Zoom in, hit 'em hard, zoom out. Think Dodge Super-bee vs. turbocharged Civic. :) BTW, I recently read over at Strategypage that they need to stack up at least six Eagles against one Raptor, just to give the Raptor driver a challenge. Whew. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70923 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70923 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:12:45 -0600 *All* cannons can shoot around a corner. They just do it the long way -- over the roof, into the troposphere and then back down again. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70906 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70906 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:34:45 -0600 watched one of those flying in close formation with p-51s, f-86's, an f-4, f-16, f-15 and a-10s last weekend. practicing for heritage flight demos. i was sporting wood... living here in tucson and driving by the boneyard everyday it always amazes me. we mothball better aircraft than the rest of the world flys active duty. and now this one. guess we'll be seeing the eagles in the boneyard next... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70877 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70877 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:04:50 -0600 It would be interesting to see it (F22) in a dogfight with some vintage aircraft. Put the F22 in a relatively tight box (10 Sq Miles?) and see how that maneuverability helps/hinders. Just a thought. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70872 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70872 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:16:24 -0600 Aw sheesh- dang kerosene burners wit all the fancy-shmancy ee-lectronics and such. I could take it down with a Spitfire Mk IX or above... um, if it would hang around long enough. Harrumph http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70870 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70870 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:05:51 -0600 To paraphrase my AF brother: the most awesome thing ever. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70868 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/dont_even_step.html#comment-70868 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:02:17 -0600