Comments for ObamaNation: Where People Will Be Taxed Out the %$$ and Love It We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:01:02 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification ObamaNation: Where People Will Be Taxed Out the %$$ and Love It [Kat] I was watching CBS evening news (by accident) where I just watched the first half of their program sucking up and the second half actually taking apart his history. Then they showed a clip of Obama lambasting John McCain about taxes: John McCain plans to make those tax breaks permanent! The crowd went wild. In the alternate universe of ObamaNation, people will be taxed out the %$$ and love it! Literally! It was like watching a crowd of angry villagers with lighted torches getting ready to hunt down the imaginary monster. Everybody wants to kill the monster and screams... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:38:58 -0600 Comment from Fishmugger on 2008-02-29 As a red stater living in a blue state it should be noted that we have state income, sales and real estate taxes and then pay Fed income, Social and Med taxes. I don't go to the library because the books there were chosen by the people running this blue state. Borders is right around the corner though; and I buy hardcovers for two reasons: one, I can't wait for the paperbacks to come out and two, I box up the hardcovers and take them down to our Vet hospital. Six cartons last year. AND NOT ENOUGH COPS?? We have state, county, local and sheriff departments. Try cruising over the speed limit for a while and see what happens. I do support my locals and keep my "get out of jail free" card handy. And yes...I won't be receiving a rebate check because I'm above the threshold but hey...64 days and a wake up will make me eligible for those Fed bennies everyone says are mine. And Beaufort SC is real nice with red fish and tarpon and this blue state can try and make it without me. And Mr Obama can try and find someone else to pay all those taxes I used to pay. All us baby boomers will be paying less taxes soon. How are them Dems going to fix that? Heh, heh, heh. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70187 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70187 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:01:22 -0600 Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-02-29 http://corner.nationalreview.com/ ... What she doesn’t mention is that the helping industry has treated her pretty well. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama’s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office. And that does not count the money Mrs. Obama receives from serving on corporate boards. She would have been O.K. even without Jack’s magic beans. ... Lying Liars, and the Useful Idiots Who Love Them]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70177 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70177 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:36:59 -0600 Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-02-29 Us "rich" people in the $75k bracket don't get handouts from people like Tony Rezko. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70176 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70176 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:43:31 -0600 Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-02-29 WEll, if a family making $75k is "rich", as a single person with a certain income, I am probably "rich" in Obama's categorization, too. I knew we were about to get screwed. That means, though, that Obama and his wife must be "mega wealthy". Why don't they open their wallets and pay more voluntarily. They might be able to support one whole after school program by themselves, comrades! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70174 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70174 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:05:06 -0600 Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-02-29 Maybe you haven't noticed the fewer cops on the street, the libraries shutting down, and tremendous increase in the national debt that has only been lessened by foreign investments. First, what one of the posters said above. Revenue went up under Bush. Unfortunately, so did the spending. I know everyone thinks we've been in a recession for seven years instead of one, but that is completely wrong. The Dow had risen over 4000 points at our highest post 9/11/01. And, all those "foreign" jobs were actually going to "foreigners" here in the United States. Just ask the conservatives who were complaining about all the illegal aliens coming into the country. I have never heard so much horse hockey from either side, frankly, regarding our alleged situation. It's like you all live in some fantasy world. "Companies see our lower taxes and decide to open jobs in foreign countries." Even the logic of that is wrong. You simply do not grow GDP and and have unemployment at near record lows of 4.6 -4.9% in a recession or in a country where "all the jobs" are going over seas. These folks have you all snookered. Of course, there's a big potential that will happen as soon as we start handing down massive taxes, pretend to give tax breaks to "patriot companies" and various other bad schemes.
It's not that we want someone else to pay for spending habits, it's that we expect the upper class to support society like the rest of us - and not just suck from it.
Holy Cow! I had no idea I was "sucking" from society. You know, shockingly, I don't get welfare, cash assistance, food stamps, have no children going to "head start" programs, getting free lunches, going to after school programs, etc. How old are you any way, to believe that the wealthy, who pays over 36% income tax (considerably high state taxes), that turns out to be about 60% of the over all tax the government takes in, is "Sucking" off the government/society. Did they teach you those fuzzy mathematics in Revolutionary re-education camp?
Maybe you haven't noticed the fewer cops on the street, the libraries shutting down, and tremendous increase in the national debt that has only been lessened by foreign investments.
No, no and yes, but I think I noted the reason: STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY ON BS! Seriously, the area I live in has three libraries within 10 minutes or so. Each of them paid for by the taxes of middle class schmucks like me and wealthy philanthropists who like to give their money away to good causes (like providing free lending libraries to the communities). In fact, the library down town just got a fantastic make over a couple of years ago. Maybe these libraries are closing down because they are in bad shape and people aren't using them like they used to because, here's a shock, the young who used to be the usual people to use these libraries the most, all have these lovely things called computers and don't need to run down to the library to read up on a subject. Nor do they want to. If people aren't using the library, why would we keep it open? As for the fewer police officers, forgive me if I suggest communities that believe they need additional police officers should look at paying additional local taxes for just those kinds of things. Or even implementing a state wide tax for the support of police or firemen? Who said it has to be the national government that raises taxes and supplies this money to these necessary organizations? Why isn't the state providing these services the way they used to? Why can't it now? Seriously, while the national government hands out some nice chunks to these programs, particularly under the guise of anti-terrorism funding, they are actually getting less than 30 cents on the dollar distributed, no one has control over what these departments buy or how much OT they just offer because they can. Why are we talking about spending money just because we can, not because we need to? If you really want to know, that is what actually got us in to this situation in the first place. We let the government spend like we spend our personal income. Spend it because we have it. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70173 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70173 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:58:51 -0600 Comment from Oldloadr on 2008-02-29 MajMike - Yeah, when I heard Obama say that, I thought I should run down and join the local country club... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70172 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70172 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:56:01 -0600 Comment from MajMike on 2008-02-29 whoo-hoo!!! i finally made it! i'm rich!!!!! so now i'll at least be happy when i write out the college tuition checks and file my taxes and have macaroni and cheese for dinner tonight. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70171 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70171 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:26:08 -0600 Comment from Oldloadr on 2008-02-29 For those of you who may have missed Obama's speech in San Antonio: His definition of a rich family (married filing jointly) are those making over $75K/year. Anybody who calls that rich is a socialist, period. For Jason: tax revenues actually went up with the Bush tax cuts (it really always works that way [as even JFK knew]). Of course, Bush agreeing to no child left behind, senior drug benefits and other entitlement programs, along with congress' delusional spending habits (bridges to no-where) negated that benefit. And BTW, I don’t use the public library, if I want to read a book, I wait for the paperback edition and pay for it. You see, I don’t mind paying for what I want/need and what my children want/need, but I resent the hell out of paying for somebody else’s wants/needs. While I’m at it, less cops is not a bad thing to somebody who believes in and exercises his/her 2nd Amendment rights; considering that violent crimes are only interrupted by LEOs less than 1% of the time (and that stat is from before the tax cuts). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70170 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70170 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:02:43 -0600 Comment from GM Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET on 2008-02-29 Did anyone see the similarity? Like Nuremburg rallies? Just wondering. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70169 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70169 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:49:40 -0600 Comment from Jason on 2008-02-29 Yes, no doubt that the first step would be to overhaul the idiotic tax codes and subsidies currently in place. Both sides of the aisle to blame for that. For Kat, I am surprised that you think that the Bush tax cuts have no effect on your life. Maybe you haven't noticed the fewer cops on the street, the libraries shutting down, and tremendous increase in the national debt that has only been lessened by foreign investments. It's not that we want someone else to pay for spending habits, it's that we expect the upper class to support society like the rest of us - and not just suck from it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70168 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70168 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:24:15 -0600 Comment from LT Nixon on 2008-02-29 This "hope" and "change" message isn't resonating with me as the best "hope" for the nation would probably be to slash and burn all these idiotic government programs that both Dems and Repubs have implemented. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70167 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70167 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:33:36 -0600 Comment from Foxfier on 2008-02-29 I seem to recall that the bottom 50% of the country pays about 4% of federal taxes. Not 40%, but FOUR. Maybe, if more folks actually PAID for the government they get, they'd stop demanding that it spend more? (I know a few families that have a negative tax rate, despite having jobs, etc.) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70165 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/02/obamanation_whe.html#comment-70165 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:20:46 -0600