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  <title>Comments for ObamaNation:  Commander in Chief?</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-02-22T08:06:55Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-16T18:42:22Z</updated>
    <title>ObamaNation:  Commander in Chief?</title>
    <summary>[Kat] In a debate Thursday, February 21, Presidential Candidate Obama claimed that our armed forces in Afghanistan are &quot;capturing&quot; Taliban weapons to use because it is easier than getting weapons from the US government. At Gateway Pundit quoting Obama (video included): &quot;They were actually capturing Taliban weapons because it was easier getting Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current Commander in Chief.&quot; Dear Obama, You and your party for one global government continue to confuse our troops with our Allies. How many times is the Democrat party going to confuse the Canadians with...</summary>
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      <name>Kat</name>
      <uri>http://themiddleground.blogspot.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p>[Kat]</p>

<p>In a debate Thursday, February 21, Presidential Candidate Obama claimed that our armed forces in Afghanistan are "capturing" Taliban weapons to use because it is easier than getting weapons from the US government.</p>

<p>At <strong><a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hillary-plays-texas-hold-em-dem-debate.html">Gateway Pundit</a></strong> quoting Obama (video included):</p>

<blockquote>"They were actually capturing Taliban weapons because it was easier getting Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current Commander in Chief."</blockquote>

<p><br />
Dear Obama,</p>

<p>You and your party for one global government continue to confuse our troops with our Allies.  <strong><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2006/10/08/dnc-changes-vets-page/">How many times</a></strong> is the Democrat party going <strong><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2007/06/22/nancy-pelosi-supports-the-troops-the-canadian-troops-that-is/">to confuse the Canadians with US troops?</a></strong>  This time, though, you've really done it.  You have confused our British Allies and their weapons issues with our own troops.  At least the Canadians live on this continent.</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/22/narmy222.xml">(UK) Troops Fight with Inadequate Equipment</a></strong></p>

<blockquote>Andrew Walker, the coroner, said the "totally inadequate" resources led to them being "outgunned by a bunch of renegades". "The soldiers were defeated not by the terrorists but by the lack of basic equipment," he said.[snip]

<p>Asked if they could have matched their attackers if they been supplied with Minimi machine guns and under-slung grenade launchers, Major Jonathon Bristow, the commander of the patrol, told the court: "It would have made a hell of a difference. We lost the initiative through a lack of firepower and thus the Taliban had a greater weight of firepower."</blockquote><br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/07/warmy207.xml ">(UK) Troops are running out of Machine Guns</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3382397.ece">MoD Wields Axe and Troops Suffer</a></strong></p>

<p>I can't locate the original story on the lack of light and heavy machine guns, but it actually indicated Brit troops were using captured Taliban weapons because they couldn't get the parts (mentioned in one of the above stories) to repair their weapons.</p>

<p>Other issues include:<br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/22/narmy222.xml">British troops fight Taliban without Chinooks</a></strong></p>

<p>Anyway, Mr. Obama, I realize that the campaign trail is difficult and busy, but the job of President and Commander in Chief is even more difficult.  Therefore, I am providing you with a brief guide on the difference between British and US forces (pictures included):</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/14/nparade114.xml ">British Troops wear the Union Jack and funny hats</a>.</strong></p>

<p>Sometimes, <strong><a href="http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/kehenry1/WarrickPin.jpg">American troops wear[spelling corrected] funny hats</a></strong>, too, but they have the <strong><a href="http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/kehenry1/cwowilliamwhite.jpg">Stars and Stripes on their shoulder.</a></strong> to help you tell the difference.  </p>

<p>If you are confused, please ask your wife.  She went to Harvard.  </p>

<p>Yours,<br />
Kat</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-02-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>kat-missouri</name>
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        My thoughts are that, not that the story doesn&apos;t have some truths to it, though I believe it was presented erroneously as a current issue and as if the issues stand alone (ie, capturing weapons to use because they don&apos;t have enough of their own, working or otherwise), but that, the recent problems noted by the British in regards to their shortages have been extrapolated by the Obama campaign to represent a current issue within the US military.


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    <published>2008-02-23T21:21:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-23T21:21:26Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8772-comment:70023</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-02-23</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Geez, J, yer such a slut. 8^ )  You only show up if I link you, and then you shovel stuff into the comments like we hadn&apos;t mentioned it elsewhere, like the H&amp;I today.

Humph!  I&apos;m not in your RSS reader, like you are in mine, huh?

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    <published>2008-02-23T21:12:30Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-23T21:12:30Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8772-comment:70020</id>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-02-23</title>
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        <name>kat-missouri</name>
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        <![CDATA[Yes.  Already saw that as well as the multiple other "partly true, partly misconstrued".  As in, the story was from 2003-2004.  Up armored humvees were being sent to Iraq because that is where IEDs were prevalent and it only became prevalent in Afghanistan more recently.

That they didn't capture weapons in order to use them because they were short, but because that is what they did, etc, etc, etc.

I still believe, to a degree, that Obama brought it up because he heard the stories coming out of England and got confused over whether it was a current event of US military or not.

Further, I will relate the multitudes of posts from various others explaining exactly why and what.

Read comments as well:

<strong><a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/02/twweeeetttt-fla.html" rel="nofollow">Blackfive I</a></strong>

<strong><a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/02/in-the-crossh-7.html" rel="nofollow">Blackfive II</a></strong>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-23T18:33:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-23T18:33:26Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8772-comment:70019</id>
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    <title>Comment from J. on 2008-02-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[Yeah I really hate it when Democrat stories about military readiness issues <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/from-the-fact-3.html" rel="nofollow">actually end up being true...</a>
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    <published>2008-02-23T18:18:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Casey Tompkins on 2008-02-22</title>
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        <name>Casey Tompkins</name>
        <uri>http://www.thegantry.net/blog</uri>
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        That&apos;s ok, you got the hard part right: spank Obama! Heh heh heh...


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    <published>2008-02-23T04:58:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-02-22</title>
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        Yeah, I got that, but couldn&apos;t fix it because I was at work and can&apos;t reach the login from there.  

But, yes, I realize that I was criticizing him and then spelled it wrong.  My bad.
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    <published>2008-02-23T00:38:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from TmjUtah on 2008-02-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[Linked you over <a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=11195" rel="nofollow">here</a>.]]>
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    <published>2008-02-22T18:31:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Casey Tompkins on 2008-02-22</title>
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        <name>Casey Tompkins</name>
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        <![CDATA[Ai! And the man thinks he's qualified to be President!?

BTW, Kat, that should be "American troops <i>wear</i> funny hats," not "where." Just a li'l heads-up.
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    <published>2008-02-22T18:09:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from DE644 on 2008-02-22</title>
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        Mr. Free Market of Free Market Fairy Tales has had a couple of articles on this subject.  This situation is of great interest to him since he is a English Veteran.  Check him out.
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    <published>2008-02-22T14:57:56Z</published>
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