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  <updated>2008-09-23T17:01:35Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for H&amp;I* Fires:  24 FEB 2008</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-02-25T05:53:09Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-16T18:42:22Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I* Fires:  24 FEB 2008</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... Time to add a new caveat, because from email it&apos;s not clear to some folks (mind you, if you don&apos;t read this it won&apos;t matter...) Being an open post, people (collectively, the Denizens) other than I post in the H&amp;I. They sign their work (most of the time) - keep that in mind when you want...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</p>

<p>Time to add a new caveat, because from email it's not clear to some folks (mind you, if you don't read this it won't matter...) Being an open post, people (collectively, the Denizens) other than I post in the H&I. They sign their work (most of the time) - keep that in mind when you want to flame someone in email please - if it doesn't say "The Armorer" or "John" then I didn't write it! And honestly - if you don't like something said or posted... leave a comment, and hash it out (within the context of The Rulez which are clearly posted on the comment form, I would add).</em></p>

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<p>HomeFront Six on <strong><a href="http://homefrontsix.blogspot.com/2008/02/dont-know-much-about-history.html">the importance of paying attention in school, and life</a></strong>. It's wrapped up in that civics quiz Lex and I linked to.</p>

<p>J. of <strong><a href="http://armchairgeneralist.typepad.com">Armchair Generalist</a></strong> popped into Kat's post on Friday and crabbed a bit about the failures of the Administration (many of which I agree, *were* failures) as exemplified in Senator Obama's cherry-picked Army Captain (which I expostulated on in Friday's H&I Fires).  J. seemed a bit miffed that I didn't write an extensive post on the subject and lectured me on Clausewitz, too.  So, today, to balance Senator Obama's cherry-picked example, I will send you over to Blackfive, where <strong><a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/02/twweeeetttt-fla.html">Deebow posts his own, personal experience in the same era of the Afghan conflict as Senator Obama's Army Captain, as my counter-vailing cherry-pick</a></strong>.  There.  That means it all cancels out, right?  Snerk.  Of course not.  It just shows you can cherry-pick, and policy should not be set by cherry-picked examples (see, Iraq, Invasion of, intelligence failures and the policy makers who made bad policy therefrom).</p>

<p>Fighting Soldiers, from the sky.  Not any more.  <strong><a href="http://bostonmaggie.blogspot.com/2008/02/robin-moore-1925-2008.html">Robin Moore dies, Boston Maggie has the details</a></strong>.</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.genx40.com/archives/2008/february/whatcancanadado">Alan of GenX@40 opined that Canada could put more troops on the ground in Afghanistan</a></strong> and got "greased" for doing so.  Interesting discussion.  <strong><a href="http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com">Over at The Torch, a Canadian milblog where Denizen Damian lives</a></strong>, you can just start at the top and read down about what the Canadians (and Brits, and Aussies) are doing in re: Afstan.</p>

<p>Denizen <strong><a href="http://www.techography.com/article.php?story=20080222133153126">Bloodspite could use a prayer platoon</a></strong>.  Gotta get some other posting done before I head off to Columbia to see my neice in Harvey...  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>And now for something completely different...</p>

<p>Got young kids?</p>

<p>Got family with young kids?</p>

<p>Got friends with young kids?</p>

<p>Know any humans with young kids?</p>

<p>Check <a href="http://www.childdrowningprevention.com/index.html"><strong><u>this</u></strong></a> out.</p>

<p>That is all. -Instapilot, aka Attila of Argghhh!</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone."</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8776-comment:70054</id>
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    <title>Comment from J. on 2008-02-25</title>
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        &quot;I still think your side deserves Ralph Nader to balance Ron Paul.&quot;

Ohhhh... unkind. ;)
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    <published>2008-02-25T16:51:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-02-25</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Heh.  J. you just do this to annoy me, making nice!

We&apos;re mostly in violent agreement, in most aspects on this particular issue, I think, with the rough edges around the fact that I look at Obama and see my 401(k) shrinking to nothing, and my ability to contribute to it shrinking (or at  least the gun budget drying up to pay the taxes), and not being able to retire anytime soon, as I so fervently desire.

I still think your side deserves Ralph Nader to balance Ron Paul.


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    <published>2008-02-25T16:07:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J. on 2008-02-25</title>
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        FTR, I wasn&apos;t looking for a long explanation on why Obama&apos;s example was bad, just curious as to how one justified the charge that the &quot;anti-war&quot; crowd was criticizing the Repugs for not fully mobilizing re: Iraq war. Not sure that charge is accurate. I think there are two issues here, how either side would address a &quot;global war on terror&quot; (which I think we both agree is a ridiculous phrase), and how the current war in Iraq has been/is being handled. 

Specific to Obama, who I support, yeah, he poorly explained (exploited) an anecdotal story that may be an indicator, but is not the standard. Not one of his better moments. But I am more annoyed by the right (Blackfire&apos;s blog in particular) assuming that Obama&apos;s story was false to begin with, instead of allowing time to see if in fact the administration&apos;s policies have in fact resulted in a second-tier standard for Afghanistan-bound troops.  

Hey, bottom line, your blog, your views. I always enjoy visiting and participating in the discussion.
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    <published>2008-02-25T15:23:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-02-25</title>
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        I was only joking. If I didn&apos;t want people to read it I would not have posted it. Thanks for the link :) 
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    <published>2008-02-25T06:29:08Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-25T06:29:08Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2008-02-24</title>
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        I agree with John, it was a good post.
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    <published>2008-02-25T05:01:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-02-24</title>
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        Um, put up a sign that sez &quot;John, this is an insecurities post, please do not link!&quot;

Personally - I thought it was a good post!
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    <title>Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-02-24</title>
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        Aw, gee. Thanks! It&apos;s not often I put my insecurities out there and now I have all of you from here gawking at them. Lovely! ;~P
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    <published>2008-02-24T22:47:52Z</published>
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