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  <updated>2008-09-23T17:04:54Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for Speaking of toy pistols...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-01-16T16:52:39Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-12T20:29:57Z</updated>
    <title>Speaking of toy pistols...</title>
    <summary>Which we did, tongue-in-cheek, in yesterday&apos;s H&amp;I Fires... snarking my sister a bit about her attempts to keep &quot;gunplay&quot; out of the play-habits of her children. However, depending on where you live, and/or the relative wisdom and intellect of your child... you *should* keep toy guns away from them. As in these toys in Iraq. Which Pistol is the Real Deal? Photo by Spc. Adam Sanders, January 11, 2008 Staff Sgt. Terry Dahl holds a real 9 mm pistol in his right hand and a toy 9 mm pistol in his left at an Iraqi police station in Seddah, to...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Which we did, tongue-in-cheek, in yesterday's H&I Fires... snarking my sister a bit about her attempts to keep "gunplay" out of the play-habits of her children.  However, depending on where you live, and/or the relative wisdom and intellect of your child... you *should* keep toy guns away from them.  As in these toys in Iraq.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/73B313AC92BE1AF/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Which Pistol is the Real Deal? Photo by Spc. Adam Sanders, January 11, 2008  Staff Sgt. Terry Dahl holds a real 9 mm pistol in his right hand and a toy 9 mm pistol in his left at an Iraqi police station in Seddah, to demonstrate how similar the fake and real weapons look. Coalition forces are asking shop owners to stop selling the toys to children so they are not mistaken for insurgents. Staff Sgt. Dahl is with the 9th Psychological Operations Battalion.[The official caption is incorrect - the toy pistol is in the *soldier's* right hand, the real pistol in his left - but to us, the viewer, the toy is on the left, and real pistol on the right. -the Armorer] "></p>

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Which Pistol is the Real Deal? Photo by Spc. Adam Sanders, January 11, 2008 

<p>Staff Sgt. Terry Dahl holds a real 9 mm pistol in his right hand and a toy 9 mm pistol in his left at an Iraqi police station in Seddah, to demonstrate how similar the fake and real weapons look. Coalition forces are asking shop owners to stop selling the toys to children so they are not mistaken for insurgents. Staff Sgt. Dahl is with the 9th Psychological Operations Battalion.  .[Update: As reader BCross points out - the caption is incorrect - the toy pistol is in the *soldier's* right hand, the real pistol in his left - but to us, the viewer, the toy is on the left, and real pistol on the right. -the Armorer </blockquote></p>

<p>A little closer look:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/DB10CD1C7D791C3/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Comparison of toy Glock and a real Glock - US troops are asking shopkeepers in Iraq to not sell the realistic looking toy pistols to children.  And for good reason, in the current environment in Iraq."></p>

<p>Now, you could put markings on them, like the blaze orange markings required for realistic toys/replicas/air soft guns that are sold in the US.</p>

<p>Or, better, yet, <strong><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/01/httpwwwgizmodoc.html">provide the insurgents with these rifles</a></strong> and pistols that look like this, to better identify them...</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/AFBAAA55DF40B90/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Hello Kitty Pistol"></p>

<p>After all, we *might* get 'em to do it - the current crowd running around as insurgents have, in the past, had some silly-looking iron themselves...</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/92E406DD2EC61DA/standard.jpg" border=0 alt="One of Saddam's personal weapons."></p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-01-17</title>
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        You are correct, of course.  I did what the caption writer probably did - the differences in the pistols were obvious to me (at this range) and I just said, &quot;fake left&quot; &quot;real right&quot; in relation to me.

But for people to whom that is not so obvious, I&apos;ll go edit the caption!

Good catch.
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    <published>2008-01-17T22:33:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BCross on 2008-01-17</title>
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        <![CDATA[As a side note, it appears the caption is wrong.  It looks like the Glock in his <strong>left</strong> hand (viewer's right) is the real one.  The other one does not appear to have the "safety trigger" nor does it appear to have the means to remove the slide from the frame.

But those differences are not visible in the top picture, so they probably wouldn't be noticable at typical engagement distances.]]>
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    <published>2008-01-17T21:17:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-01-17</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Why is the Air Force guy wearing a Navy cap?</em>

Same reason he's wearing the Army web belt and 9mil rig -- he's being *joint*...]]>
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    <published>2008-01-17T14:16:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2008-01-16</title>
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        I resisted the play-gun thing too, but boys will make guns out of anything as your sister found out.  Now they have tons, but ALL of them have some sort of &quot;toy&quot; aspect like the orange tips.
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    <title>Comment from JimC on 2008-01-16</title>
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        Why is the Air Force guy wearing a Navy cap?
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