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  <title>Comments for Hmmm.  It&apos;s lunch, I got mail.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-01-18T18:06:59Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-12T20:29:57Z</updated>
    <title>Hmmm.  It&apos;s lunch, I got mail.</title>
    <summary> Press release on Dole Institute Milblog Panel. Note that two of the guests, Holt &amp; Carroll will meet with military and journalism faculty, classes and students on Jan29 &amp; 30. Jan. 17, 2008 Contact: Jonathan Earle, Dole Institute of Politics, (785) 864-4900 . Dole Institute to host panel discussion on military blogs LAWRENCE — As a follow-up to a successful program in early 2007 on political Weblogs, the Dole Institute of Politics will host a panel discussion about another dynamic and growing community on the Internet: military blogs (also known as “milblogs”). Blogs from the front lines in Iraq...</summary>
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Press release on Dole Institute Milblog Panel. Note that two of the guests, Holt & Carroll will meet with military and journalism faculty, classes and students on Jan29 & 30.

<p>Jan. 17, 2008<br />
Contact: Jonathan Earle, Dole Institute of Politics, (785) 864-4900       . </p>

<p>Dole Institute to host panel discussion on military blogs<br />
LAWRENCE — As a follow-up to a successful program in early 2007 on political Weblogs, the Dole Institute of Politics will host a panel discussion about another dynamic and growing community on the Internet: military blogs (also known as “milblogs”). </p>

<p>        Blogs from the front lines in Iraq and Afghanistan have allowed readers at home to connect with soldiers, contractors and civilians who are serving their countries, and they have forced the Pentagon to rush headlong into this 21st century medium.</p>

<p>        Milblogs began to appear shortly after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. They saw a dramatic increase in usage following the 2003 invasion of Iraq. According to Joshua Patterson, a KU graduate student studying journalism, Milblogging.com had indexed more than 1,800 military blogs in more than 30 countries as of Dec. 1, 2007.</p>

<p>        “Milblogs and soldier blogs are often gripping and graphic firsthand accounts of the author’s life and experiences,” said Jonathan Earle, interim director of the Dole Institute. “This program will give our audience a window onto a new and fast-changing part of the so-called ‘new media.’ I can’t recall a similar program anywhere else in the country.”</p>

<p>          The program will begin at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 29, at the Dole Institute. It is free and open to the public. </p>

<p>        Like last year’s “Blog to the Chief” program at the Dole Institute, this discussion will be moderated by David Perlmutter, associate dean of KU’s William Allen White School of Journalism and Mass Communications and author of the books “Visions of War” and “Blogwars.” The panel will feature Charles J. “Jack” Holt, chief of New Media Operations for the Department of Defense, and leading military bloggers Ward Carroll, editor of Military.com and Milblog.com; and John Donovan, lead blogger of Argghhh! The Home of Two of Jonah’s Military Guys.</p>

<p>Holt is a career Pentagon civilian employee. He served with the National Guard at the National Guard Bureau and was deployed to Hungary, Croatia and Bosnia. The New Media Outreach program, which he leads, studies how new technologies inform the public of defense policy and operations. </p>

<p>        During his 20-year Navy career, Caroll served in four F-14 squadrons, accumulating more than 2,800 flight hours in operations that included five extended aircraft carrier deployments to hostile regions. Carroll has worked as a writer and cartoonist for Approach magazine and is the author of five books, including “Militia Kill.” He currently blogs at Defensetech.org and his personal site, wardcarroll.com.</p>

<p>Donovan is a retired soldier who served for 20 years as an artillery expert, military historian, training and simulations expert and weapons of mass destruction response planner. He currently works as a defense contractor for the Army, working on everything from simulation development to operational analysis. He has worked on projects ranging from developing an analytic personnel management model to future Army concepts, structures and equipment. As a blogger, he covers military affairs, firearms, military history and politics.<br />
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<p>There's an advantage to being local.  I'm cheap, they don't have to fly me in or put me up.  I just get a free dinner out of it.  As I understand it, Dave is going to take advantage of my localness and have me do with his fall semester classes what he's having Ward Carroll and Jack Holt do for his spring semester classes.</p>

<p>At least that's what my ego hopes, ennyway...  8^ )</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8620-comment:68817</id>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2008-01-19</title>
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        <name>Justthisguy</name>
        <uri>http://enemiesofthelibrary.blogspot.com</uri>
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        It being in Lawrence, I reckon I wouldn&apos;t be welcome there wearing my Quantrill t-shirt?

Actually, I could prolly get away with, considering the abysmal historical ignorance of most people these days. The Armorer might knock me down and kick me, though.

At least the feminists would be on my side; Quantrill only murdered white males.
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    <published>2008-01-19T22:34:48Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-19T22:34:48Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8620-comment:68813</id>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-01-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>kat-missouri</name>
        <uri>http://themiddleground.blogspot.com</uri>
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        I&apos;m on it.  I&apos;ll even bring the video camera.  LOL
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    <published>2008-01-19T20:56:36Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-19T20:56:36Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8620-comment:68802</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-01-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        Well, *I* see myself as still military, since my commission is still in force, and I get a retainer payment every month...  but I&apos;m not active duty.

Kat:  Dole Institute, KU, like is says in the presser...  I bet you can find it, Lawrence isn&apos;t that big!
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    <published>2008-01-19T13:13:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Army Sergeant on 2008-01-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>Army Sergeant</name>
        <uri>http://activedutypatriot.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Are you still military? If so, we could possibly fly you out if you want to cover the Winter Soldier event in March. <a href="http://activedutypatriot.blogspot.com/2008/01/wanted-bloggers-especially-military.html" rel="nofollow">http://activedutypatriot.blogspot.com/2008/01/wanted-bloggers-especially-military.html</a> 
has details. 

Otherwise, we probably couldn't fly you out, but I know there are some buses going, and you're still more than welcome to attend and blog it!]]>
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    <published>2008-01-19T11:37:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8620-comment:68799</id>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2008-01-18</title>
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        <name>SangerM</name>
        <uri>http://www.grandretort.com</uri>
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        Hey, maybe you could get it flash-video&apos;d and then you-tubed.  Talk about tech changes...

A friend of mine teaches on-line courses for a college out west.  He does it from his home in CA, using podcasts and Adobe&apos;s WebConnect live.  He plans to have me participate sometime in March, I think, probably as an example of a lab-rat who lived... :-)  Really though, I&apos;m in Texas, he&apos;s in CA, his students are from all over the place, and we&apos;re all going to be live together for a couple hours one night.

I&apos;ve got years of experience with two-way video education and web-curriculum development, and 70-80% of my college degree work is non-traditional (i.e., not on campus, not in classrooms), but to be honest, this is new territory even for me--and a bit daunting.  I&apos;m ugly in person and unfortunately, I know what I look like on a video screen, but even so, I can only guess at what I&apos;ll look like through a webcam.  Yucch.

But it should be interesting.  And I&apos;d sure like to see your stuff, John.


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    <published>2008-01-19T05:22:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-01-18</title>
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        I wrote a bit ago...and maybe got ate by the dungeon trolls...that I&apos;d like to know exactly the location of this panel so I could make kat calls from the back...er...ask pertinent questions of the panelists.
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    <published>2008-01-19T04:52:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jim b on 2008-01-18</title>
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        <name>jim b</name>
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        As a graduate of the William Allen White School of Journalism I commend you.

However you really need to get your shots updated. If things haven&apos;t changed the journos there are an alien life form.
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    <published>2008-01-19T01:14:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-01-18</title>
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        I did install a new choklit cannon. 

Y&apos;know, this is going to perplex the normals (as in non-blog-regulars, Ry) who show up because of David telling his students to read the blog.

Hi there, Students of Perlmutter!!!  

Um, one thing you guys do have to have clear in your minds... I&apos;m a Mizzou grad, my father I both played ball at Mizzou (well, I practiced more than I played) and I firmly believe in Rock Chalk, Chickenhawk, ***** KU! when it comes to athletic endeavors.  

But I&apos;m usually polite when I&apos;m on-campus because I&apos;m well past the time in my life when brawling is fun.


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    <published>2008-01-18T21:09:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-01-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>No more than usual, anyway.</em>

It's the whole *less* than usual deal (resulting in chocolate syrup and stale cheese puffs stuck to the cushions) that raises eyebrows in High Places...

*loading the crushed ice chamber in the 'ritamatic* ]]>
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    <published>2008-01-18T21:02:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-01-18</title>
    <author>
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        Um, no.  No more than usual, anyway.
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    <published>2008-01-18T19:54:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2008-01-18</title>
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        Very cool!

But now that you&apos;re gettin&apos; all respectable, does that mean we have to behave ourselves &apos;round here?  ;)
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    <published>2008-01-18T19:42:39Z</published>
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