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  <title>Comments for Another veteran you might not mind as a neighbor...  or walking through your mall.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-01-26T15:30:11Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-25T15:52:07Z</updated>
    <title>Another veteran you might not mind as a neighbor...  or walking through your mall.</title>
    <summary>Like &quot;Smokey&quot; Taylor in the post below - another veteran who does his bit to discourage criminals. From another email: Don&apos;t Mess With A Marine Who&apos;s Trying To Eat Police called to investigate the scene: The 71-year-old retired Marine who opened fire on two robbers at a Plantation, FL, Sub shop late Wednesday, killing one and critically wounding the other, is described as John Lovell, a former pilot for two presidents. He doesn&apos;t drink, he doesn&apos;t smoke, he works out everyday. Lovell was a man of action Wednesday night. According to Plantation police, two masked gunmen came into the Subway...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Like "Smokey" Taylor in the post below - another veteran who does his bit to discourage criminals.  From another email:</p>

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Don't Mess With A Marine Who's Trying To Eat

<p>Police called to investigate the scene:</p>

<p>The 71-year-old retired Marine who opened fire on two robbers at a Plantation, FL, Sub shop late Wednesday, killing one and critically wounding the other, is described as John Lovell, a former pilot for two presidents. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, he works out everyday. Lovell was a man of action Wednesday night.</p>

<p>According to Plantation police, two masked gunmen came into the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Rd. Just after 11 p.m. There was a lone diner -- Lovell, who was finishing his meal. After robbing the cashier, the two men attempted to shove Lovell into a bathroom and rob him as well. They got his money. But then Lovell pulled his handgun, opened fire, shooting one of the thieves in the head and chest and the other in the head.</p>

<p>When police arrived, they found one of the men in the shop. K-9 units found the other in the bushes of a nearby business. They also found cash strewn around the front of the sandwich shop according to Detective Robert Rettig of the Plantation Police Department. Both men were taken to Broward General Medical Center , where one, Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale died. The other, 21-year-old Frederick Gadson of Fort Lauderdale is in critical but stable condition.</p>

<p>A longtime friend of Lovell, was not surprised to hear what happened. ''He'd give you the shirt off his back and he'd be mad if someone tried to take the shirt off your back,'' he said.</p>

<p>Lovell worked as a pilot for the Marines, flying former Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. He later worked as a pilot for Pan Am and Delta. Lovell is not married and does not have children.</p>

<p>He is not expected to be charged, authorities said ''He was in fear for his life,'' Rettig said. ' These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots.'</p>

<p>Something tells me this old Marine wasn't 'in fear for his life' even though his life was definitely at risk. The only thing he could be charged with is participating in an unfair fight. One 71 - year young Marine against two punks. Two head shots and one center - body- mass shot - good shooting!. That'll teach them not to get between a Marine and his meal.</p>

<p>Don't you just love a story with a happy ending?</p>

<p>( Florida law allows law abiding citizens to carry a concealed weapon.)<br />
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<p><em>'These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots.'</em></p>

<p>Unfortunately, there's enough people out there who can be intimidated by idiots that the idiots find the odds largely in their favor.</p>

<p>Would that more cops had that kind of attitude, too.</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8652-comment:69112</id>
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    <title>Comment from doug in Colorado on 2008-01-28</title>
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        <name>doug in Colorado</name>
        
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        &quot;once a Marine, always a Marine...except for Jack Murthaforker.&quot;
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    <published>2008-01-28T22:29:00Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-28T22:29:00Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8652-comment:69066</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2008-01-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cricket</name>
        
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        Subway, HIS way.  Outstanding.

 
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    <published>2008-01-27T23:58:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-27T23:58:52Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8652-comment:69047</id>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2008-01-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
        <uri>http://www.canted.com</uri>
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        I guess one was a to-go order.... 


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    <published>2008-01-27T06:52:12Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-27T06:52:12Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2008-01-26</title>
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        <![CDATA[Perhaps a revised advertising slogan for Subway?
<strong><em>'Subway... Eat Lead!'</em></strong>
hmmm.... mebbe not...
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    <published>2008-01-26T23:22:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Murdoc on 2008-01-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Murdoc</name>
        <uri>http://www.gunpundit.com</uri>
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        Nice!
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    <published>2008-01-26T22:11:13Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-26T22:11:13Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8652-comment:69029</id>
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    <title>Comment from DoubleTapper on 2008-01-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>DoubleTapper</name>
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        <![CDATA[<strong>Semper Fidelis!</strong>

You know what they say, <em>"Once a Marine, Always a Marine!"</em>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-26T19:34:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2008-01-26</title>
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        <name>FbL</name>
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        Awesome, awesome story.  
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    <published>2008-01-26T19:23:09Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-26T19:23:09Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from NOTR on 2008-01-26</title>
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        Nay! OF COURSE he &quot;was in fear of his life.&quot; That eliminates any question whether his use of lethal force to blow away the two scumbags was proper &amp; justifiable. Lacking that, a shyster lawyer could make a case the one living wounded robber was due damages for at least medical expenses.

One dead slimeball and one in critical condition bothers me though. Did he run out of ammo? 
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    <published>2008-01-26T19:08:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John on 2008-01-26</title>
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        If your state allows &quot;shall issue&quot; concealed weapon permits to good guys with minimum hassle (about 40 states do now) then you should get a permit to carry.  Maybe you don&apos;t want to carry every day, but it is good to have that option so you CAN defend yourself.  You never know when you may find yourself threatened, so it is good to be ready all the time.  (Don&apos;t wait for the kitchen fire to start before getting a fire extinguisher, either!)
Remember, when you are in serious danger and seconds count, the police are only minuntes away.


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    <published>2008-01-26T16:32:35Z</published>
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