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  <title>Comments for Old Age And Treachery...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-12-27T08:50:03Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-01T16:51:34Z</updated>
    <title>Old Age And Treachery...</title>
    <summary>...will defeat uncooperative, snobby Microsoftware when it counts. This time, anyway. First, something for ol&apos; Number 82 Hisself, since he pays the rent on this place: I seem to have piqued a bit of interest when I mentioned a diesel-engined Cessna -- here &apos;tis: The C-172S, to be precise. Here&apos;s the giveaway: Scoots through the air towed by a tri-blade prop spun up by a 135shp diesel, which doesn&apos;t have the guts for Iraqi summer air, but you won&apos;t run out of fuel looking for 100 octane avgas -- she&apos;ll burn JP-8 very nicely. The last batch to be delivered...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
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    <category term="<![CDATA[<s>GWOT</s> Whatever it is...]]>" />
    
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      <![CDATA[<p>...will defeat <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/12/wowf_finally.html"><strong>uncooperative, snobby Microsoftware</strong></a> when it counts.</p>

<p>This time, anyway.</p>

<p>First, something for ol' Number 82 Hisself, since he pays the rent on this place:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/D2D768D1DFD2594/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Heh. Symbology runs rampant 'round here."></p>

<p>I seem to have piqued a bit of interest when I mentioned a diesel-engined Cessna -- here 'tis:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/FFA676608C1060A/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Down, Neffi! Stop drooling!"></p>

<p>The C-172S, to be precise. Here's the giveaway:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/C756BBCD2E927D9/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Pssst -- it's the oil cooler inlet, not the exhaust stack."></p>

<p>Scoots through the air towed by a tri-blade prop spun up by a 135shp diesel, which doesn't have the guts for Iraqi summer air, but you won't run out of fuel looking for 100 octane avgas -- she'll burn JP-8 very nicely. The last batch to be delivered will have the engine boosted to 155shp, which *will* cope with hot temps / high density altitudes.</p>

<p>The Garmin 1000 cockpit layout is just, plain *nice* -- even if it *is* mostly digits instead of steampunk:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/B6E0B4F55C501FB/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Ooooh -- look! Shiny!"></p>

<p>Ever wonder what a ton of JDAM will do to a thin-skinned building -- like a hangar?</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/DE1031D3ED9406B/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="This photo rated *G* despite total structural nudity."></p>

<p>The depression in the roofline just left of center is the point of entry. The blast blew every bit of corrugated sheathing right off the bolts and sheared some stringers, but did surprisingly little damage to the structural members.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/6C28E63F246FFE2/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Warm up the soldering iron, Sis."></p>

<p>The gravel-filled area in the floor is about 5% of the crater. Yup, that's a soccer ball.</p>

<p>And, since I haven't done a Whatziss in a while -- </p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/C42E57EC109F81A/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Hint -- it is *not* a midget sub."></p>

<p>BTW, I left the oil drum and sandbags to give you some scale. Unlike *some* people who show ya a pic of a refill for a ballpoint pen and blow it up to look like the cleaning rod for a 240mm gun.</p>

<p>Aaaaaand, just for the record, proof positive that not *all* contractors look like <a href="http://www.fototime.com/6BC985519165D4A/orig.jpg"><strong>Hollywood's idea of a CIA operative</strong></a>...</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2007-12-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Ledger -- Nope, the material's a re-enforced microfiber of some sort. Sitting on a leather seat in an Iraqi summer would be like sitting in a cast-iron skillet over an open fire</em>. -Bill

Bill, you mean it cheap vinyl?

That tears it. I am not buying one! 

With this thing sporting a jet fuel powered diesel engine, 3 blade prop, glass instrument panel, white seats with buttons, I would have though it would have been fitted with Leather seats (or simulated leather seats due to PETA). 

Even though the "microfibers" sound cool, vinyl would be pretty hot and sticky in the summer. It is a disappointment ;) 


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    <published>2007-12-29T02:06:05Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-29T02:06:05Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67986</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Well, I'll post this anyway, though it's somewhat OBE...  <a href="http://www.manfred-bischoff.de/images/sps-141_riss_oben+unten.jpg" rel="nofollow">SPS141</a>

Oh, and Bill - I woulda taken the picture of the adapter cable, scaled it to look like a fire hose or something...]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T03:08:37Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-28T03:08:37Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-12-27</title>
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        HF6 -- The hangar&apos;s just west of runway 13/31 at Kirkuk.

OldSchool -- Da. What&apos;s interesting is that the markings are in English and there&apos;s an adapter cable in the rear -- according to the *former* Su-22 pilot I asked about it, the beastie was mounted centerline on a Mirage I and not wing-mounted on an Su-22.
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    <published>2007-12-28T03:04:36Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-28T03:04:36Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from sandman6actual on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Naaaaaaah, it&apos;s nothing more than a ginormous knuter valve. Probably to one of the MiG series. It&apos;s the one that connected the piston return springs to the muffler bearings.


Really, though, I love these whatzisses, but I hardly ever have an idea.
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    <published>2007-12-28T01:46:33Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-28T01:46:33Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from OldSchool on 2007-12-27</title>
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        what is it?
SPS-141MVG ECM pod .... russki

yah or nyet?
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    <published>2007-12-27T23:35:08Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T23:35:08Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Toluca Nole on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Whoa!  That is a Desert Kaiten.  I had heard rumors...
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    <published>2007-12-27T23:32:26Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T23:32:26Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Well, yer a flier and should know them things there Lex-my-fellow!

It would appear that the Scrupl&apos;s or KtLW have our fair William decisively engaged.
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    <published>2007-12-27T22:38:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-12-27</title>
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        great, so now we gotta try to figure out what search terms the squid used....
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    <published>2007-12-27T22:37:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from lex on 2007-12-27</title>
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        I&apos;m with John, some class of EA pod although I would have guessed either Rooshan or French. Near went blind flicking through Google images trying to track it down. Really *must* remember to put &quot;safe search&quot; back on in preferences before I go past the third page though.
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    <published>2007-12-27T20:22:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-12-27</title>
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        ooh. i do like your answer better. concur.
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    <published>2007-12-27T19:57:00Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T19:57:00Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Oh, and those would be runways 31 and 32.
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    <published>2007-12-27T17:20:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        My photo-interp skillz suggest rather this location (via GoogleEarth)

35°27&apos;33.5N x 44°21&apos;04.14E at elevation 1048m.

And since I can see the lattice-work of the hangar and the ziggurat.  Haven&apos;t found the whatziss in there yet...
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    <published>2007-12-27T17:16:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-12-27</title>
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        ..as for the &quot;where-zis&quot;, i&apos;m gonna guess &quot;in the near vicinity of runway 15; 33deg 17min 11sec N by 44deg 28min 50secE.....

***all unclass speculation using open source Flashearth website***
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    <published>2007-12-27T16:53:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from HomefrontSix on 2007-12-27</title>
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        MacGyver wants to know where that hangar is. Swears he&apos;s seen it before. 


As for the &quot;whatzis&quot;...I got nuttin.
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    <published>2007-12-27T16:23:49Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T16:23:49Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Hey, old man, what's yer point?</em>
About *what* in particular? The toob or my uncanny resemblance to Harrison Ford's stunt double? 

Boq, that hat *used* to have a shape. One too many squishings in the overheads of Third World "airliners"...]]>
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    <published>2007-12-27T15:11:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Great Boonie Hat on them whiskers Unkabill
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    <published>2007-12-27T15:01:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Chinese ECM pod of some sort?  That&apos;s my working hypothesis... though there is a *dearth* of pics of same on the web... thus far.
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    <published>2007-12-27T14:10:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-12-27</title>
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        looks like one of them there new fangled Persian wonder torpedoes what can zoom and fly and such...
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    <published>2007-12-27T13:52:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        The gun looks to be a 100mm KS-19/Type 55.
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    <published>2007-12-27T13:51:27Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T13:51:27Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67959</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        Ledger -- Nope, the material&apos;s a re-inforced microfiber of some sort. Sitting on a leather seat in an Iraqi summer would be like sitting in a cast-iron skillet over an open fire.
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    <published>2007-12-27T13:30:06Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T13:30:06Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67958</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        Hey, old man, what&apos;s yer point?
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    <published>2007-12-27T13:29:30Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T13:29:30Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67956</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ledger</name>
        <uri>http://www.msn.com</uri>
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        Are those real leather seats in that diesel Cessna 172?
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    <published>2007-12-27T13:10:52Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T13:10:52Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67955</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        kat -- Technically speaking, ummmmm, no.
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    <published>2007-12-27T12:43:35Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T12:43:35Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67954</id>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>kat-missouri</name>
        <uri>http://themiddleground.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Extra fuel pod for a MiG.
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    <published>2007-12-27T12:16:41Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T12:16:41Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8534-comment:67953</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...I tell you that gizmo looks like something one would find in that cartoon universe.</em>
Considering the manufacturer, you *could* say it's from a cartoon universe.

AgPilot60 -- I think the engine's a turbo Thielert Centurion, but I didn't poke under the cowling to double-check. And, yeah, the gun does look a lot like an 88 with a muzzle brake, which is what caught my eye in the first place -- it's sited right next to an ADA radar ziggurat. *sigh* -- yeah, John, I got a pic of the data plate, but it's sandblasted all to Helen Gaghan.

OFS -- Nope. The cammo paint job is ugly enough to pass for ChiCom, though...]]>
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    <published>2007-12-27T12:05:58Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T12:05:58Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Old Fat Sailor on 2007-12-27</title>
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        I&apos;ll hazard a guess-Silkworm anti-shipping missle?
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    <published>2007-12-27T10:17:36Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T10:17:36Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from AgPilot60 on 2007-12-27</title>
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        Bill,
 Who makes the engine for the Cessna? I assume it is an aircooled Deutz opposed type and hopefully with a turbo. If they could boost the hp up to about 180/200 they would have a pretty good flying machine. 235 hp with a c/s prop would be even that much better.
 The 1st picture looks a little bit like the WWII German 88 FlakWagon at the Ft Sill museum, except it had all of it&apos;s wheels and I don&apos;t remember it having brakes.
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    <published>2007-12-27T08:35:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Justthisguy</name>
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        Damned Truncation Bug!  That was &quot;...killbots wearing shakos, with plumes!&quot;

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    <published>2007-12-27T07:14:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
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        Dang, that thing in the last pic looks like it could sprout legs, and come walking for one. I mean, it has a mouth, and nostrils on its flanks, and scary-looking weird things on its dorsal surface.

Sorry, I clicked on a link at BCR&apos;s about Girl Genius, and that must have started a program she left in my head.  I&apos;m up to about the middle of 2005 in my requirement to read every episode, and I tell you that gizmo looks like something one would find in that cartoon universe. Send in the clanks. I like the idea of killbots wearing shakos, with plume
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    <published>2007-12-27T06:57:56Z</published>
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