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  <title>Comments for December 7, 1941: Sunday After Church</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-12-07T09:42:11Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-15T14:53:46Z</updated>
    <title>December 7, 1941: Sunday After Church</title>
    <summary>[Denizen Commentary - Kat] My Uncle Donald was ten years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. He died two years ago from pneumonia. He was in and out of the hospital before that. While he was in the hospital, I went to visit him. We didn&apos;t have much in common I thought, so subjects of discussion were hard to come by. He was most often watching college basketball when I came. I was never into basketball. This particular day was December 7, 2004. I realized that he must have been alive at the time of the attacks so I asked...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>[Denizen Commentary - Kat]</p>

<p>My Uncle Donald was ten years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked.  He died two years ago from pneumonia.  He was in and out of the hospital before that.  While he was in the hospital, I went to visit him.  We didn't have much in common I thought, so subjects of discussion were hard to come by.  He was most often watching college basketball when I came.  I was never into basketball.  </p>

<p>This particular day was December 7, 2004.  I realized that he must have been alive at the time of the attacks so I asked him if he remembered.  I don't know what I expected.  It was somewhat of an idle question.  But, like all those who live through important history, he remembered exactly what he was doing and where. </p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>My mom was not born yet.  There was a seventeen year difference in their age.  Uncle Donald said that the day had started like any other day.  He, his mother and father got up, got dressed and went to church.  They had no idea what had happened.  At church, he said it seemed normal.  No one spoke or acted as if they knew about the attacks.  Most probably didn't.</p>

<p>They drove home and, as they always did, his dad read the Sunday paper while his mom fixed lunch.  Every meal was served in the dining room.  His mom had three sets of china.  The special china she received as a wedding gift that was used for special occasions.  The second best china for Sunday dinner and the every day dishes for the family.  As always, his mom put out the "second best" china and placed the food on the table before calling them to wash up and come to the table.  Lunch was baked ham, carrots and mashed potatoes.  His mom had gotten up early to put it in the oven and make fresh bread rolls.</p>

<p>After the food was served, his father led them in a little prayer.  His mom got up and went to the side table to turn on the radio for some music while they ate.  Instead of music, a reporter was giving the news.  The reporter said something terrible had happened and they were waiting for further reports.  His mother turned the station, continuing to look for music.  Instead, all she found was the news.  </p>

<p>Just as she was about to turn off the radio, a reporter repeated the news:  Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.  Terrible devastation.  Number of casualties unknown.  Estimated in the thousands.</p>

<p>Uncle Donald said that no one spoke.  After listening to the radio for a few minutes, his father left the table and went to the garage.  His mom told him to finish eating and started clearing the table.  She turned off the radio.</p>

<p>An hour or so later, my grandfather returned from the garage and hung the American flag they usually put up for Independence Day from the front porch.  No one spoke about the news.  Uncle Donald said that it seemed like the entire street was abandoned.  </p>

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<em>Ohio Gov. Bricker and family listen to the news of the war in Europe, 1941</em></p>

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That night, as Uncle Donald laid in bed, he heard his parents in the front room.  <strong><a href="http://www.old-time.com/halper/halper41.html">They were listening to the radio</a></strong>.  The music was interspersed with patriotic songs and news reports.  His parents spoke quietly.  He could only make out a few of the words.  One of those words was "war".</p>

<p>While this story is not as exciting as the stories from survivors of the attack, it is part of the story of the "Day that will live in infamy."  It's an American story that probably happened all over the country.  This is how the people heard that America was attacked.  This is how they knew we were at war. </p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-12-07</title>
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        My father was in Brazil at the time.  My mother  passed away and while I heard of her time after the war, when they were stationed in Germany, I never asked her where she was or what she was doing when Pearl Harbor was attacked.  I regret that now...thank you for telling your uncle&apos;s story.


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    <published>2007-12-07T22:25:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-12-07</title>
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        They were in California.
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    <published>2007-12-07T22:24:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marvin on 2007-12-07</title>
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        It is the difference in time zones that allowed the &apos;happy morning at church&apos;.

8am in Hawaii is 2pm in New York, 11am in California. 

So, it was after lunch that most of America learned of the attack. 
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    <published>2007-12-07T22:06:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-12-07</title>
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        Thanks for sharing this Kat.  I&apos;ve never asked my Dad his thoughts on that day, which is funny when you think how intently we&apos;ve discussed the military and history and WWII as a subject.  We&apos;ve never discussed it in a personal way.  It never occurred to me because he was just seven years old.  I&apos;ll have to find out how he felt that day. 

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    <published>2007-12-07T18:44:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MAJ Arkay on 2007-12-07</title>
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        It&apos;s exactly these kinds of everyday, normal American lives&apos; stories that make history so vibrant.

Although my grandparents, mom and dad told me, I haven&apos;t asked any of my remaining aunts and uncles what they were doing when they got the news of Pearl Harbor.  I know they&apos;ll be able to tell me in exquisite detail.

Thanks for the reminder.
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-12-07</title>
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        Heh.  Armorer, I kind of thought that it was a bit &quot;off&quot; with all the &quot;happy&quot; part.  Hoped it wasn&apos;t just me.  LOL

Damien.  It is very true.  My uncle was a boy scout.  the end part of this story is that he went on to collect scrap iron, old pots and pans, tires, nylons etc from the neighborhood folks and also sold war bonds.  he received a certificate in January 1945 for selling the most war bonds in his region.

It went on to inspire him to join the army in 1948, even though the war was technically &quot;over&quot;.  he was part of the army of occupation in Germany for a little over two years before serving in Korea.  My Uncle spoke German.

the back part of this story: his father was a German immigrant who spoke with a heavy german accent his entire life.  They lived in a &quot;German&quot; community where more than half the people still spoke German.  

Even in the lead up to the war, my Uncle said my Grandfather was determined that they were &quot;Americans&quot;.  Of course, his immediate family had been killed or &quot;disappeared&quot; by a paramilitary group in Bavaria shortly after he left in 1921.  So, it is no wonder he wanted to disown his heritage.  

I may have mentioned it here before, but my grandfather was an &quot;illegal&quot; alien.  He stowed away on a boat with one of his cousins to get here.  Of course, he later became a naturalized citizen.  but it is interesting juxtaposition to modern day thoughts on &quot;aliens&quot;.
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    <title>Comment from Damian on 2007-12-07</title>
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        Heh.  Gotta love comment editing functions around here.  Tools belong in the shed, not in the comments section of a fantastic milblog.

Kat, this is a great story.  These events, whether the individuals who remember them participated in them directly or not, shaped how that generation lived the rest of their lives.  It&apos;s important to remember their experiences as well, because it&apos;s not just the Pearl Harbour veterans who won the war, it was the rest of their countrymen who learned of the event this way, and then braced themselves and advanced to 1945.
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        [If the comment that used to reside in the section had been in the H&amp;I, I&apos;d have left it up, because it was mostly self-parody.  But this isn&apos;t that kind of post, so I elided the off-topic drivel. -the Armorer]
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