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            <title> H&amp;I* Fires, 25 OCT 2007</title>
            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ********************************* Being in virtual isolation here has caused me to become rather disconnected from things, as my posting of late indicates, due to a lack of ability to research and stay plugged in. Things such as the full impact of the fires in California - something I handled clumsily yesterday mixing empathy and self-indulgent humor. At...</description>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-10-27</title>
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                We have an infestation in our neighborhood as well.  I would second the enviros on that as being horrid to weed out.  Kudzu aint pretty.
Not as pretty as ivy.
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            <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:11:49 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-10-26</title>
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                Yes it is and Clemson University is constantly looking for ways to control it (they&apos;ve given up on eradication).  The latest I heard was to get goat herders to travel around with their herds to kudzu infestation sites (similar to bee-keepers with their bees).  The goats seem to do well on kudzu forage...
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            <pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:18:13 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-26</title>
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                Being currently in Dixie - kudzu is a noxious weed, no doubt.
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            <pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:17:06 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-10-26</title>
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                <![CDATA[In case anybody comes back here; I thought I would comment on ry's mention of vines as an anti-erosion agent.  You were probably thinking of kudzu...  It looks great on paper, but there is a downside sometimes.  However, the climate of Southern California may not be so conducive to losing control as the climate here in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu" rel="nofollow">Dixie</a>.  

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            <pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:21:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from ry on 2007-10-25</title>
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                There&apos;s a type of ground hugging vine that tended to do well in chapparal conditions(was a biotch to rip out too), but the enviros might not like it since it&apos;s &apos;an invasive non-native species&apos;.  But would be a good intermediate in my opinion.  Have to ask Ma what it was that I spent my entire summer at age 12 rooting out.  

I hear you sH.   We gotta remind people that this isn&apos;t a once off problem and that it is a persistent one.  I know they don&apos;t want to hear that now, but the sooner it gets moved on the better the outcome.  

loadr, contractor you may have been, but you&apos;re only stinky after 18 hour days(at least that&apos;s what Mrs. loadr says).  
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:13:54 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from steveH on 2007-10-25</title>
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                As for burned slopes, it wouldn&apos;t be a bad idea to cast out grass seed and the like, in addition to any trees or shrubs.

Retardant from air tankers at least used to include grass and weed seeds in the mud; that&apos;s what binds a lot of topsoil from erosion, and they hoped to give it a head start.

I grew up in L.A. county, and can&apos;t recall when mudslides didn&apos;t follow big fires. That&apos;s assuming it ever rains again down there.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:44 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from ry on 2007-10-25</title>
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                You&apos;d be surprised, Fuzzy.  Even a little bit liquifies.  If it was me, I&apos;d get together with a bunch of the neighbors and plant some trees or something to act as a stiffener to the burnt areas.  What sayeth Unka Bill on the situation, oh Gardner King of Joisey?

Either way, watch the tufted tushie, Fuzzy.  For-warned is for-armed.  YOu can still stock pile on essentials like water, butane camp stove, non-perishable food, kitty litter(oh yes indeedy), meds(if&apos;n you or Momma Fuzzy have any  prescriptions) and ways to keep warm when/if the power and gas lines get cut. 
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:25:02 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-10-25</title>
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                BTW - In case anybody thinks I was being offensive; I was once a &quot;stinking contractor&quot; in Iraq...
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:27 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-10-25</title>
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                Cricket - Members of Congress usually get active duty escorts; at least they did when I was at CV.  It gives them an opportunity to play the politician with the soldiers.  Nobody cares what a stinking contractor thinks...
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:50:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from FbL on 2007-10-25</title>
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                No worries, John.  I saw that post in a mindless scroll through the Castle, but didn&apos;t have the unoccupied brain cells to comprehend it, much less be offended.  What little part of me that registered it knew you were disconnected and busy.  :)

And you&apos;re right of course, Ry.  Another way in which my mother and I are lucky is that we are on a hill that only burned in pockets.  The fire hopscotched around up the hill from us and at the base of it (houses burned), but there are no wide swathes of empty hillside.  So any mud-slides would likely be no more than an inconvenience for us (blocking access for awhile, utilities, etc).  Lex should be okay, too: I think he lives on a mesa and the fires didn&apos;t come any closer than a couple of miles to him.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:22:11 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-10-25</title>
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                Uhhh, when Shrillary and Nancy PLOsi went gallivanting off to the ME, who provided their security?  Blackwater or the Secret Service?
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:05:08 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2007-10-25</title>
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                Good points, Ry.  
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:17:27 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-25</title>
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                Sounds like valid points to me, Loadr.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:05:24 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-10-25</title>
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                <![CDATA[The article you linked is factual, but one thing that was left out, which, IMHO is, at least, part of the problem.  Blackwater has been working for the State Dept and CENTCOM has had no control over them <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq_blackwater_42" rel="nofollow">so far</a>.  What this has meant in practical terms is the other PSCs have had limitations placed on their firepower and Blackwater hasn't.  When I left the AOR last year, our project had been turned down, for the 3rd time by CENTCOM, in our request to have M-60/M-240s (7.62mm) for our lead and trail vehicles.  The most bang we were allowed was M-249s (5.56mm).  And don't even ask for anything with HE.  The only grenades we were allowed were colored smoke for LZ marking.  Conversely, Blackwater was allowed M-2s and chain guns.  CENTCOM’s view was that you don't need heavy crew served weapons for, what is supposed to be, a purely defensive mission.  

Another point: I argued (unsuccessfully, of course) that the PSCs were hiring from the wrong gene pool to start with.  A mission of pure defense and protection of assets would be better suited to former MPs, not former special ops operatives.  But, hey, what do I know, I’m just an old bomb loader who’s convoyed from Mosul to Basra, that’s all.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:03:50 -0600</pubDate>
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