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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <title>H&amp;I* Fires 1 Oct 2007</title>
            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ********************************** Heh. A new fiscal year... and we&apos;re working from last year&apos;s budget. That was usually annoying from a soldier perspective - as a blood-sucking contractor, it really bites, because all those shiny new contracts written on &apos;08 dollars can&apos;t go into effect until the actual budget is passed. Which hampers us, but also hampers the...</description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:56:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Murray on 2007-10-02</title>
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                Grunts bounce off real good.
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:49:45 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Murray, I was just askin&apos;, in a technical kind of way, about what kind of objects, approaching at whatever speed, could be counted upon to make a hole, or not, in an M113.

Yah, obviously on many occasions people protected by nothing more than thin shirts have won violent deadly fights,by being smart and maneuvering, etc.

And survived, even.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:16:44 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Murray on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Ask the Aussies who were at Long Tan how they feel about 113&apos;s.

Last I heard a few of them were ready to marry one.

Might be what you do with it rather than what it can do that matters.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:43:41 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-10-01</title>
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                An interesting lecture it was, I watched a bit of it expecting little of it but it turned out worthwhile.  To hold an audience&apos;s attention for that long is an achievement in itself and he&apos;s good at inspiration too.

What is with this resolution?  I don&apos;t really get it.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:38:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-10-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>...pledges to debate any supplemental funding request or any policy decisions regarding the war in Iraq with the solemn respect and the commitment to integrity...</em>

*Always* disregard the body of any congressional resolution until you've checked the bottom line. And the bottom line in this instance -- in keeping with the line of the thread -- translates as, "To everyone we mentioned in the preceding paragraphs: F**k you."

* * * * * * * * * * * *
<em>I was always WTF about aluminum armor.</em>

The Royal Navy had that same thought during the Falklands Exocet-Catching Exercise...
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:34:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Oh, Murray, I believe that Tom Wolfe (in &quot;The Right Stuff&quot;) described the use of the F-word as speaking in &quot;Army Creole&quot;.

You know what I mean, interpolating it between syllables, etc,
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:49:35 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Umm, Murray, and Bill, and The Armorer; just what is the M113 good for?

I mean, aside from avoiding having to walk, and stopping pistol bullets and low-velocity fragments, and all?

Surely, when they first built the thing, somebody shot at it with various weapons to see what would penetrate.

Just curious, I was always WTF about aluminum armor.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:41:52 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2007-10-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[<a href="http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2007/09/music_from_isra.html" rel="nofollow">Why the Army has Problems</a>. Some ominous images here.

Cheers]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:31:17 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from 1sg Keith on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Rush Limbaugh???? damn, what have I gotten myself into.....
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:41:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Murray on 2007-10-01</title>
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                F bomb?

Down here thats just punctuation.

Can&apos;t wait to see what Peter Jackson does with the Dam Busters.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:50:07 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-01</title>
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                DNM - Can&apos;t help that, that post of mine I linked to is from 2004, and Questing Cat shut down.  The purpose of the link was about the ubiquity of the F-bomb in the vocaulary of Anglospheric soldiers under stress...
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:18:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from DoesNotMatter on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Uh, the site you linked to in /to_borrow_from_blackfive&quot; (questingcat.com) is dead and for sale.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:05:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-10-01</title>
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                now imagine being taxed for all those aborted transactions....

this broadband tax cuts into my real life bread and butter.  this thing must be defeated.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:25:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Yeah...I actually refreshed the live blog twice before I jumped in just in case I was jumping on somebody&apos;s post.  that is how Maggie&apos;s post escaped scrubbing.

At least it was somebody else&apos;s fault this time.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:16:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-01</title>
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                No, I dodged your bullet.  By a few minutes.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:07:39 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-10-01</title>
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                hah...and I came down probably stomping it to bits...again.  mucho apologies.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:53:10 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-01</title>
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                Ah, don&apos;t sweat it Maggie.  I knew it was going to be a problem when I set it up that way.

It&apos;s just funny.

I refreshed to see if anyone had put anything in, I published, then Ry published over it.  So, I go back in, do it all again... and you published over it.

The *real* lesson is: Don&apos;t publish the thing until I&apos;m done!  No way for you to know - don&apos;t worry, I&apos;m just whinin&apos;.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:37:41 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-10-01</title>
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                My apologies.  
You know everytime I post, I worry about that.  I get all spooled up and I think it actually ends up taking me longer.  That&apos;s why I don&apos;t do it often, but I just really had to put something here today.  I am insufferable when I best the favorite Naval Consort.  
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:18:21 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-01</title>
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                I *knew* I shouldn&apos;t have published when I did.

First Ry, then Maggie, stomped on my addition.

Fooey!  Now you&apos;ll never know what it was!
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:10:41 -0600</pubDate>
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