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  <title>Comments for Carrying Coals to Newcastle. Or to the New Castle. Or...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-10-11T06:21:19Z</published>
    <updated>2007-10-15T16:15:57Z</updated>
    <title>Carrying Coals to Newcastle. Or to the New Castle. Or...</title>
    <summary>...tossing lighter fluid on the coals. Cassie got some mileage from her observations on the inequities -- and possible iniquities -- you can bump into when dealing with The System. Or, more properly, when dealing with the human beings who comprise The System. However, here&apos;s a li&apos;l quirky option she didn&apos;t consider: I was at semi-loose ends the first time I got out of the Army (October 1972 -- Stop that! You *know* I&apos;m that old!), so I figured I&apos;d use my GI Bill bennies to add a fixed-wing rating to my helicopter one. I trotted down to the county...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>...tossing lighter fluid on the coals.</p>

<p>Cassie got some mileage from her observations on the inequities -- and possible iniquities -- you can bump into <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/10/facts_are_stubb.html"><strong>when dealing with The System</strong></a>. Or, more properly, when dealing with the human beings who comprise The System. However, here's a li'l quirky option she didn't consider:</p>

<p>I was at semi-loose ends the first time I got out of the Army (October 1972 -- Stop that! You *know* I'm that old!), so I figured I'd use my GI Bill bennies to add a fixed-wing rating to my helicopter one. I trotted down to the county seat, popped into the courthouse and approached the kiosk with the big red-white-and-blue VA above it.</p>

<p>Me (producing copy of DD-214): "I just got out of the Army and I'd like to apply for my GI Bill benefits."</p>

<p>Kiosk Occupant: "Okay, you must be planning on starting high school in January, because the school year has already started."</p>

<p>Me: "*??* High school? Noooo, I've already got a BA -- I want to go to a flight school and get my fixed wing rating."</p>

<p>KO: "Well, if you've already got a college degree, you're going to have to wait -- we've got guys who haven't even been through high school. We're not committing funds for advanced degrees until we get everybody a high school diploma."</p>

<p>Me: "But I'm not looking for an advanced degree -- I want to go to a civilian flight school."</p>

<p>KO: "Same difference. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."</p>

<p>Me: "Okay, so where does that put me on this educational waiting list?"</p>

<p>KO: "At the bottom."</p>

<p>Six months later (same kiosk occupant):</p>

<p>Me: "Hi, I'd like to check on GI Bill funding availability for a civilian flight school."</p>

<p>KO: "Nothing's available. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."</p>

<p>One year later (still the same kiosk occupant):</p>

<p>Me: "Hi, I'd like to use my GI Bill to go to a civilian flight school."</p>

<p>KO: "You're out of luck, then. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."</p>

<p>So, because I now had a job which had me working 60 hours a week (and on-call on weekends), I put off checking for a few years. Then I fell into a full-time job with the Guard and had even *less* spare time. When I finally got a breather and figured I now had the time to go after a fixed wing rating, I realized that I'd waited too long and had lost my eligibility.</p>

<p>The quirky li'l option I mentioned? Well, it seems the VA kiosk occupant wasn't even a fed from the Veterans' Administration. He was a New Jersey state employee from the Veterans' *Affairs* office and used to hang out in the -- unmanned -- Veterans' *Administration* kiosk. 'Nother words, he was somebody outside the system (or only involved at the periphery) who had a personal agenda.</p>

<p>Why? I'll never know -- he'd been fired a couple of years previously for cause...</p>

<p>...'way before I could get down there with a riot baton to beat the answer out of him.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-10-11</title>
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        Okay, got a 50-gallon trash bag for ya. Just keep the EG away from it &apos;til it dries out real well -- there&apos;s a bunch of polyester fibers mixed in there somewhere (I got the big scraps out) and they&apos;ll raise hob with a pooch&apos;s digestive tract even worse than scarfing the tootsie rolls outta the litterbox will...
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    <published>2007-10-11T23:27:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-11</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Um, well, er, ah, um, mebbe.
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    <published>2007-10-11T20:10:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-10-11</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...he's sure to be his same chipper self.</em>

Oooooh. Mentioning "KO" and "chipper" in the same sentence has given me an even *better* idea. 

Hey, John -- interested in some nice, 100% organic mulch?

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    <published>2007-10-11T15:51:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2007-10-11</title>
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        <![CDATA[K.O. Should be very easy to find.  Just look into the nearest <strong><a href="http://friendsofatr.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-jersey-petri-dish-for-bad-policy.html" rel="nofollow">S.C.H.I.P.</a></strong> help desk; he's sure to be his same chipper self.]]>
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    <published>2007-10-11T13:06:54Z</published>
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