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  <title>Comments for A public demo of someone who has completely lost his mind...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-10-19T09:24:43Z</published>
    <updated>2007-10-25T10:29:22Z</updated>
    <title>A public demo of someone who has completely lost his mind...</title>
    <summary>Off to DEN tonight, but I couldn&apos;t resist posting the gem linked below. This one takes the cake (for today at least)... Holy Moly. Does the legal term, &quot;fighting words&quot; mean anything to the Left anymore? And then there&apos;s the comments section... Sheesh. -Instapilot H/T to El Rushbo [Armorer&apos;s note: Dusty originally put this up late last night. Since most readers have hit the page by the time he put it up, and when they come back they start at the bottom of the new day, I decided to move this up so it would get a more fulsome exposure....</summary>
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      <name><![CDATA[Dusty (AKA <em>Attila of Argghhh!</em>)]]></name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Off to DEN tonight, but I couldn't resist posting the gem linked below.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lTUB5_l0Mg"><strong><u>This one</u></strong></a> takes the cake (for today at least)...</p>

<p>Holy Moly. Does the legal term, "fighting words" mean anything to the Left anymore? And then there's the comments section...</p>

<p>Sheesh. -Instapilot</p>

<p>H/T to <strong><u><a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html">El Rushbo</a></u></strong></p>

<p>[Armorer's note: Dusty originally put this up late last night.  Since most readers have hit the page by the time he put it up, and when they come back they start at the bottom of the new day, I decided to move this up so it would get a more fulsome exposure. ]</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8220-comment:65766</id>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-10-22</title>
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        <name>Trias</name>
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        The first time I watched the video the speakers were on the blink.  Well actually they were unpowered but to turn them on you have to crawl under the desk, bump your head plugging it in, find hearing aids, turn them on and reply the video.  Just another American politician spouting some rubbish.  Can&apos;t possibly be important (and maybe this first assessment was the one best to run with). I am fundamentally lazy on some issues so glossed over it.  ...*some* issues.  You don&apos;t have to get all generalist with me.

Finally got around to listening to it today though.  I expected him to say something rude or stupid and certainly he did admirably there.  Really rather incendiary words all the more remarkable because most lefties and righties are so dulled after hearing them oft repeated with no real change of heart in the listeners or consequence for the speaker at all.  In a more widely recognised and supported war such words would be far more risky to spout out spittle and all.

Listening to him tho reminded me of that other clip.  The one with the US American of the USA teen beauty Queen talking rubbish.  Yes i know the gender is different (well one presumes anyway).  Yes she&apos;s younger and quite a bit better looking, even to me.

But it was the same pattern.  Public speaking attempting to link key words and phrases and failing for the most part.  They just really wanted to get the keywords across and seemed flustered, nervous and/or well.. drunk.

&apos;Speaking truth to power&apos; is a Noble concept IMO. There are plenty of instances where this was a good thing to do.

But in the cases I&apos;ve seen it done nobly there have always been risks and more often than not consequences, sometimes quite serious.

&apos;Speaking truth to power&apos; has it&apos;s other darker side. This man is a good example of that.  The courage replaced by cowardice, hiding behind legal protections and popular support.  The truth and understanding replaced by catch phrases and opportunism.
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    <published>2007-10-22T13:54:19Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8220-comment:65725</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-10-19</title>
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        He is from Alameda, CA.  Therefore, he is a lost cause.  And we were surprised that the BDS sufferers could stoop to a new level in low.

I sit corrected.
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    <published>2007-10-20T03:30:14Z</published>
    <updated>2007-10-20T03:30:14Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.8220-comment:65721</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-10-19</title>
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        Ah, yes. And it&apos;s quite specific about it&apos;s being limited to legislative actions.

Which raises some interesting questions...
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    <published>2007-10-19T23:57:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-19</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Marine6 brings up an interesting point.

<strong><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/21.html" rel="nofollow">More discussion of that here</a></strong>.]]>
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    <published>2007-10-19T22:04:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marine6 on 2007-10-19</title>
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        Starke is an idiot and a buffoon, but he undoubgtedly accurately represents the liberal wing of the Democratic Party these days. And, since he represents a district in the San Francisco Bay area he is also probably fairly representative of the people who keep reelecting him.

Just as a point of information, Congress does NOT exempt itself from the laws of liebel and slander. That is in the Constitution. 
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    <published>2007-10-19T21:50:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-10-19</title>
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        I was listening to Mr. Boortz&apos;s radio program today.  Neal offered the question, &quot;Do y&apos;all think that Congressman Stark is sober at 0530, or not?&quot;

Not that *I* am against anybody stating opinions after drinking too much, I just think that that guy should declare his degree, and kind, of impairment that he had when he made that speech!
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    <published>2007-10-19T19:55:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-10-19</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...Congress exempts themselves from libel suits for their words while in debate on the floor...</em>

Hence, legally untouchable. Bravery, thy name is Congress.

However, if I were to characterize Mr. Stark's words as the desperate ranting of an over-emoting, venal panderer playing to his financial contributors, his lawyers would try to hang my hide on a bramble.

*If* I were to so characterize his words. 

And *if* they even noticed...]]>
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    <published>2007-10-19T17:49:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2007-10-19</title>
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        <![CDATA[By God .... don't question their patriotism!

But they can accuse a sitting president of murdering American soldiers and Iraqi civilians for nothing more than his own amusement.

BDS is a mental illness, and these people need help.

Unfortunately, as one who works in the MH biz, I can attest that most of <strong><em>them</em></strong> suffer from the same affliction and are in denial.]]>
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    <published>2007-10-19T16:12:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-10-19</title>
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        <![CDATA[My, that was an interesting display.

S'okay, though, Barb - he was only speaking <em>Truth To Power</em>, and that's okay rhetoric for that.

And while many of Representative Stark's constituents may cringe at the words, there are certainly enough people across the nation who pumped their fists in the air at his brave stand against the man that the Founders managed to get *everybody* a representative voice in the Congress, eh?

Heh.

I would note that I *should* delete Representative (or at least edit the audio) Stark's tantrum, since it is a Rulez violation for this space.

But, since Congress exempts themselves from libel suits for their words while in debate on the floor, I suppose a good tricksy lawyer would argue it applies here, too.  

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    <published>2007-10-19T13:25:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2007-10-19</title>
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        That&apos;s pretty bizarre, all right.  I wonder if he was just so wrapped up in himself that he didn&apos;t even hear what he was saying.  It&apos;s pretty hard not to attack the messenger along with the message on that one.
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    <published>2007-10-19T05:08:35Z</published>
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