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  <title>Comments for SWORDS</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-08-08T15:44:11Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-14T21:02:45Z</updated>
    <title>SWORDS</title>
    <summary>Kevin sent an email: Now as long as the machines never get self-awareness, I&apos;m happy with that! Wonder what Hadji thinks when the Tonka toy rolls up? My response to Kevin was: The real question to ask - is what are the ROE when hajj sends his grandmother or 8 year old daughter out with a plastic bag to cover the camera? Or a stick to stick in the track? These were Kevin&apos;s answers: Good thought, hmmmm. I don&apos;t suppose you&apos;ve mounted a speaker system on it to give instructions or warn off folks? With a lack of Arabic speakers,...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Kevin sent an email:</p>

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Now as <strong><a href="http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/08/httpwwwnational.html">long as the machines never get self-awareness</a></strong>, I'm happy with that!

<p>Wonder what Hadji thinks when the Tonka toy rolls up?<br />
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<p>My response to Kevin was:</p>

<p><em>The real question to ask - is what are the ROE when hajj sends his grandmother or 8 year old daughter out with a plastic bag to cover the camera?</p>

<p>Or a stick to stick in the track?</em></p>

<p>These were Kevin's answers:</p>

<blockquote>
Good thought, hmmmm.  I don't suppose you've mounted a speaker system on it to give instructions or warn off folks?  With a lack of Arabic speakers, perhaps pre-recorded msgs that the operator can merely push a button to send?

<p>Why not add a 'bear mace' (South Park comment) cannisters on it for non-lethal deterrence?  Arrange them similar to smoke cannisters on APCs, or a spray nozzle for direct fire.  That nasty CS foam comes to mind.  Preferably colored to mark the perps.</p>

<p>A bit more forceful, but mebbe bean bag ammo for a piggybacked shotgun?</p>

<p>Or.... a nice, fully charged up battery of multiple tasers....</p>

<p><br />
Finally... </p>

<p>How about a big cannister labled "Lard" (in Arabic) with a wide-spray nozzle?  And/or have it shoot up and out like those old wacky water toys we had as kids.  A nice  umbrella pattern all around the vehicle. Let's see if the jihadis get close to it then!  With my evil infidel mind, I like this one best.</p>

<p>I'm sure there are other non-lethal systems out there, but your point is well taken.  It can't be that difficult to add something non-lethal on it.</p>

<p>And, the remote speaker would be a useful addition I would think, esp with the addition of a microphone in case a conversation is required.</p>

<p>Just my 2 cents worth.</p>

<p>Now, about that sub-contractor's fees....<br />
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<p>Got any of your own?</p>

<p>The comments over at Wired are a hoot, too.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-09</title>
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        How about a lifesize fiberglass outsert of Hillary with outstretched, huggy arms? 

That should deter pretty much *any*body from approaching...
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    <published>2007-08-09T08:03:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kep on 2007-08-08</title>
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        How about a cannister-load of pepperball?  Back in the 80&apos;s there was a paintball recoiless-like device to launch such a thing.  Don&apos;t know if it still exists but souldn&apos;t be hard to engineer.  Could be mounted like smoke dischargers.  Could also be dyed to mark perps.  
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