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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I Fires* 31 Aug 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-09-01T04:18:23Z</published>
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    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 31 Aug 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... *********************************** Payday. Yay. CAPT H sends us to Mitchieville, to a wondrous example of &apos;Murican Testosterone at work. Down in the comments (worth the trip, they&apos;ve got their own Denizenry) Mac asks the *important* question. Maggie! You get props from John Podhoretz! But, Jonah&apos;s on my side... and his email in response is mixed. -the Armorer...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

<p>***********************************<br />
Payday.  Yay.</p>

<p>CAPT H sends us to Mitchieville, <strong><a href="http://mitchieville.blogspot.com/2007/08/god-bless-america.html">to a wondrous example of 'Murican Testosterone at work</a></strong>.  Down in the comments (worth the trip, they've got their own Denizenry) Mac asks the *important* question.</p>

<p>Maggie!  <strong><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2IyOTM5MjM1OTVjMDQyYmZjMTliOWZmYjhjOWNkYzY=">You get props from John Podhoretz</a></strong>!  But, <strong><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmNiMTcxYTA4MjUzYTFiYmNkODU3Y2E0YmYxMmNmYTI=">Jonah's on my side</a></strong>...  and <strong><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDU2NGIwMThhMjg4ZTYxMWEwYmYzZjkyMDk4Njk2ZGY=">his email in response is mixed.</a></strong>  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Blogworld Expo, in Vegas this November, <strong><a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2007/08/blog_world_expo.html">will have a Milblogging section</a></strong>.  I'm not playing in this one, but if TDY allows, SWWBO and I will try to attend.  The interesting thing about <strong><a href="http://www.blogworldexpo.com">Blogworld Expo</a></strong> is that it's all bloggers, not just Polibloggers, Milbloggers, or Clogbloggers...  Kinda like a <strong><a href="http://www.shotshow.org/App/homepage.cfm?moduleid=1968&appname=100300">Shot Show</a></strong>, or <strong><a href="http://www.e3expo.com/">E3</a></strong> for bloggers.  I've met the guy pulling it together.  Interesting fellow. -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Real pain in the Cotillion today - if you're a fan of Cotillion blogs, you probably already know <strong><a href="http://www.cathousechat.com/cathouse_chat/2007/08/my-cousins-oh-d.html">what happened in Kat's family</a></strong> (not our Kat, Kat of Cathouse Chat).  If you're a praying kind of person, send some their way.</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2007/08/poverty_in_the.html#comments">Cassandra visits the poor</a></strong>.  It's all relative.  The comments are instructive.  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Alan gives us a <strong><a href="http://www.genx40.com/archives/2007/august/thelastbullets">little left-leaning insight into Canadian politics and makes a comparison to Bosnia/Kosovo</a></strong> that I've made before, as well.  Which means, then, that he's brilliant.  Well, except on that whole socialist health care model he's so fond of.</p>

<p>Kat helps you evaluate <strong><a href="http://themiddleground.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-do-you-know-iraq-surge-is-working.html">whether or not The Surge is working</a></strong>.</p>

<p>Snarkatron on <strong><a href="http://snarkpatrol.blogspot.com/2007/08/ur-doin-it-wrong.html">Airborne Kitties</a></strong>, 82nd Airborne troopers <strong><a href="http://snarkpatrol.blogspot.com/2007/08/82nd-airborne-hurls-round-objects-at.html">assaulting children</a></strong>.</p>

<p>Princess Crabby <strong><a href="http://bostonmaggie.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-is-happening-in-darfur-is-genocide.html">calls a spade a spade</a></strong>, and notes <strong><a href="http://bostonmaggie.blogspot.com/2007/08/with-friends-like-these.html">the Grey Eminence's sense of humor</a></strong>.</p>

<p>Over at the Torch, <strong><a href="http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2007/08/home-sweet-home.html">a letter from Kandahar</a></strong>, and the <strong><a href="http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2007/08/first-cc-177-flight-to-kandahar.html">Canadian Air Force puts its new toy to work</a></strong>. -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Andi sez: <strong><a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2007/08/very_vocal_army_wives.html">Watch out for them vocal Army wives</a></strong>...  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Speaking of strong women, after all that hoopla about the teen-aged beauty queen that stumbled and fumbled with the "Why people need more geography lessons" question, I ran across this little gem and thought, now there is the kind of beauty queen we need to represent the US:  <strong><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295233,00.html">Mrs. Tennessee America Bitten by Rattlesnake, Saved by Mrs. Iowa</a></strong></p>

<p>Reminds me of that song, "I can bring home the bacon. Fry it up in the pan.  And never, ever let you forget your a man.  Because I'm a WOMAN!"</p>

<p>-Kat</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone"</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Rick Calvert on 2007-08-31</title>
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        <name>Rick Calvert</name>
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        Thank you for the post and the link John. I hope you can join us in Vegas. 

Blog on!
Rick Calvert, CEM
CEO &amp; Co-founder
BlogWorld &amp; New Media Expo

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    <published>2007-08-31T21:17:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-31</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Alan -- River Horse: any of the winter ales, especially the Belgian.

Just sayin'...

<em>Likely a Habs fan.</em>

Didn't know they still *made* Habitant Pea Soup. Big yellow can? Li'l picture of a <em>coureur de bois</em> as a trademark? Good stuff...]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T20:12:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan</name>
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        Bring beer??!?!?  What the hell do you think I am doing driving south to get other than great US craft beers.  

And picking a Montreal cabbie as a role model just does not work for me.  Likely a Habs fan.
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    <published>2007-08-31T18:41:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...we would not be enjoying that 50% increase in spending power of the WPD (Workers Paridise Dollar) against the USD allowing me to head south for good shopping this weekend.</em>

Alaaaan! C'mon down! 

And bring beer.

Then you can tell me why, when offering to pay a cabbie in Montreal with his choice of WPD or the equivalent in USD, he'll grin and say, "We *like* green money up here" and snag the USD.

Oh, yeah -- bring beer.

You like our money, we like your beer -- a win-win situation...]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T18:22:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan</name>
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        Hey K-M, I don&apos;t want you guys to be like us or we would not be enjoying that 50% increase in spending power of the WPD (Workers Paridise Dollar) against the USD allowing me to head south for good shopping this weekend.  ;-)
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    <published>2007-08-31T18:06:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-08-31</title>
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        Heh...Alan, a little prickly are we?

I have no problem with the anti-fascists.  Even if they are socialists.  I love those kind of socialists (big kisses).

Just, when that&apos;s all done, please don&apos;t tell us we should be like Canada and build worker&apos;s paradise.  I won&apos;t come up there (to stay) and you can make it all you want if you can.
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    <published>2007-08-31T17:40:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-31</title>
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        So anti-fscism is now bad?  You guys really have to drop the fantasies, figure out a principle and stick with it.  And stay south of Canada as you might just run into a worker&apos;s paradise.  We couldn&apos;t have that confusion unsettle your day dreams.
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-31</title>
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        Give &apos;em a Bravo Zulu!, Kat.  That covers the Navy.
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    <published>2007-08-31T16:53:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-08-31</title>
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        On another comment, you know what really stinks?  To see &quot;Westboro Baptist Church&quot; from &quot;Kansas&quot;.  Gives Kansas an bad name.  Then people don&apos;t want to come here because they get all freaked out about the &quot;religious nut balls&quot; who they think are running the joint because, you know, the DA went after late term abortions and under age abortions and under age sex via the &quot;report as possible rape&quot; laws that are supposed to protect the young from being exploited, but the news made it out to be &quot;those darn evangelical Christian people messing in people&apos;s business&quot;.  

So, we add some fruit cakes who claim to be a &quot;church&quot; and the aryan nation trying to set up shop here and we&apos;re a bunch of racist, religious zealot nutballs.

And, I&apos;m complaining because I&apos;m from Kansas, live in close proximity to Kansas and suffer for the bleed over.

For the PGR and folks...I just want to say &quot;Hoo-ah!&quot;, &quot;Semper fi&quot; and what ever else goes for the armed forces.  Get some!
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-08-31</title>
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        Bill...LOL  You&apos;re killing me.  I was just thinking that same thing.

I despise any attempts to create a Utopian &quot;workers paradise&quot;, even if it is a washed out version because someone always wants to tell you that you aren&apos;t &quot;utopian&quot; enough.  Then they want to arrest you or have you stricken from the &quot;rolls&quot; through some manner or the other.

I say, give me some good ol&apos; fashioned greedy capitalist laissez faire and let the chips fall where they may.
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-31</title>
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        Yeah, ya gotta keep an eye on those sneaky fascists, Alan. Once they&apos;re in power, they wanna run *every*thing.

As opposed to those nice socialists, who just want to run -- uhhhhh -- *everything*... 
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    <published>2007-08-31T14:33:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan</name>
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        Thank you.  It&apos;s a hard job being an anti-fascist socialist these days.
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