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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <title>H&amp;I Fires* 30 Aug 2007</title>
            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... *********************************** From the Multi-National Force-Iraq news desk... - Iraqi doctors, medics treat fellow Iraqis during medical engagement - Attacks down, economic development up in Iraq - Commander says Iraqi citizens turning against insurgents - American cops teach Iraqi Police to &apos;serve and protect&apos; ********************************* Guess what? Opposing segregation is a thought crime, suitable to get you...</description>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:30:04 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-31</title>
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                Heh.  Where *did* it go?  I didn&apos;t delete it.
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            <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:29:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-08-31</title>
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                lol, where is my comment about my son&apos;s Nazi men&apos;s room views?  Lost in the ether.
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            <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:06:48 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-31</title>
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                *I.did.not.send.that.woman, um, Ms.Maggie,into.a.men&apos;s.room.*

I categorically deny any and all such allegations.

I have no [expletive deleted] recollections of those [expletive deleted] events.

[insert 18-minute erasure]

It depends on what your meaning of &apos;sent&apos; is.

Yer son gets it. 


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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Way to go, Jim -- tie in the military miscreants and you&apos;ll have today in a nutshell!


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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:38:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from jim b on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Because they have Bigazz mosquitoes there. Some suspect that they cross bred with croc&apos;s. They all hang out in the restrooms down by the river and it gets really perverted there.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:05:36 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Okay, the Merk4 looks like a Sheridan, but if it&apos;s that tough, why did the crew have to protect it from mosquitoes with that bigazz net? 
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Maggie - if the Senator did what was alleged, he wasn&apos;t soliciting to go somewhere like a hotel room, he was soliciting for right then and there.

;^ )

As for the rest of your story... &quot;I have no recollection of those events...&quot;
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:31:41 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>You are the one who sent me into a men's room in Seattle.</em>

Perhaps he mistakenly thought it was the Ladies' Room (it *was* Seattle, after all -- hard to tell the difference, at times).

Or perhaps the Ladies' Room was *full* and he offered to stand guard while you used the Mens' Room.

Or perhaps he just wanted to see how many guys you'd come out with.

Or if you'd come out sometime within the same 24-hour period...]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:12:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Strikes me, Maggie, that you probably want the law changed to where hitting on the guy in the next stall in a public restroom isn&apos;t illegal.

Are you telling me that it is currently illegal?  Holy smokes!  If the law allows you to be arrested for *suggesting* you are interested in sex with another adult....hell, yes!  I want it changed.

BTW, what will we charge you with?  You are the one who sent me into a men&apos;s room in Seattle.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:03:15 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-30</title>
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                Strikes me, Maggie, that you probably want the law changed to where hitting on the guy in the next stall in a public restroom isn&apos;t illegal.

I can live with that.

I&apos;m just saying that if I got selected for the jury, absent knowing anything more than what was in the police report and the Senator&apos;s public statements, he wouldn&apos;t want me on his jury.

That said - one wonders how much and how blatant the activity was that the Minneapolis police/airport authority felt the need to put undercover vice cops in the latrines.


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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:38:21 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-08-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig.

1st, he is a nitwit.  2nd, he should resign.  3rd, yes this is a perfect example of how the two different parties operate.  4th, I know only what I have read on the internet.

Now that we have those disclaimers out of the way.....

Senator Craig <strong>would</strong> want me on his jury.  

IMO, this was a baseless arrest.  The man was unjustly arrested.  What law prevents you from hitting on another adult male (if that is what he was doing and I'll concede he probably was)?  
Did the Senator verbally solicit a sex act?  Not that I can see.  
Did the undercover officer state that non-verbal contact was unwanted?  Not that I can see, so that leaves out harrassment.  
Did the undercover officer appear underage?  Not that I could see.  
Did the Senator expose himself?  Was he seen by anyone else?  Not that I have read.

IMO, that police officer jumped the gun.  Not only would I have encouraged Senator Craig to fight this, I would further have called for an investigation of this officer in particular and that police department in general.  Clearly there was an abuse of the process by people who knew that were dealing with a class of accused who were very unlikely to fight back.  

This does not mean that Senator Craig's actions were smart, or honorable.  But his mistakes do not excuse the actions of the officer.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:35:27 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-08-30</title>
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                dang if that ain&apos;t exactly what it does look like...

..and i would know, having put on a couple pounds meself!
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:53:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2007-08-30</title>
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                I cruz in mah white truck.... 
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            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:36:36 -0600</pubDate>
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