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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I Fires* 22 Aug 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-08-23T04:07:50Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-14T21:02:44Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 22 Aug 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... *********************************** John Hawkins at Right Wing News has the right-of-center blog temperature check for August up. I was out of step on two questions, and put in a &quot;none of the above&quot; for another. You can amuse yourself by trying to guess where I was off the reservation. ISG Keith - on soldier-daddies. Take a tissue....</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

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<p><strong><a href="http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/08/the_rightosphere_temperature_c_4.php">John Hawkins at Right Wing News has the right-of-center blog temperature check for August up</a></strong>. I was out of step on two questions, and put in a "none of the above" for another.  You can amuse yourself by trying to guess where I was off the reservation.</p>

<p>ISG Keith  - <strong><a href="http://myarmylifeandtimes.blogspot.com/2007/08/soldier-daddy.html">on soldier-daddies</a></strong>.  Take a tissue.</p>

<p>CAPT H will appreciate this one... even if they are Ozzie Leos.  MajMike will like it. So will Neffi.  Heck, so did I.</p>

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<p>-the Armorer</p>

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<p>More erosion from Democrats of "Cut and Run"...</p>

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Democratic Lawmakers See Progress During Visits To Iraq.  "Rep. Brian Baird of Washington saw enough progress on the ground that he will no longer vote for binding withdrawal timelines. <strong><a href="http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/241828.html">Baird, a House whip, also contended that Congress’ debate over the war has destabilized Iraq by sending wary Iraqi politicians back to their sectarian bases, 'and if we withdraw, it could have a potentially catastrophic effect on the region.'</a></strong>  Rep. Jerry McNerney of California suggested that his trip to Iraq made him more flexible in his search for a bipartisan accord on the war, and Rep. Tim Mahoney of Florida said the troop increase 'has really made a difference and really has gotten al-Qaida on their heels.'"  (Keith Chrostowski, "The Buzz: Not All Democrats Support A Quick Drawdown," Kansas City Star, 8/22/07)
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<p>One hopes Nancy Boyda is at least listening, though <strong><a href="http://westneanderthaldrive.blogspot.com/2007/08/nancy-boyda-watch-82107.html">Uncle Pavian of West Neanderthal Drive is probably sceptical</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone"</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Pat on 2007-08-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[Well, that didn't work. Just copy n' paste.
<a href="http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_display.asp?product=63" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_display.asp?product=63" rel="nofollow">http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_display.asp?product=63</a></a>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-23T01:21:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pat on 2007-08-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[That is a Leopard 1 ARV. Here's a link to the CDN version
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    <published>2007-08-23T01:17:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jon on 2007-08-22</title>
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        That&apos;s what I was thinking either that or the engine pack to a tank but it looked like an M88 recovery vehicle going faster than I thought one of those could go.  
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-08-22</title>
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        lovely little beasties they are!

(was that a MICLIC riding along atop the panzer that appears with 53 seconds remaining??)
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