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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I Fires* 13 AUG 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-08-14T04:44:12Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-14T21:02:45Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 13 AUG 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... *********************************** Proof of what we always knew about the East German border guards. More good news from Iraq, though probably not new to anyone who has been following things closely. - FbL ***************************** Rove resigns! To work for Clinton Campaign! -the Armorer ***************************** The Farm of Argghhh! has produced it&apos;s first livestock - keets. -the Armorer...</summary>
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      <name>Denizens</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

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<p>Proof of what we always knew about the <strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/13/world/europe/13germany.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin">East German border guards</a></strong>.</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-08-12-lede13_N.htm?csp=34">More good news from Iraq</a></strong>, though probably not new to anyone who has been following things closely. - FbL</p>

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<p><strong><a href="http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2640">Rove resigns!  To work for Clinton Campaign</a></strong>!  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>The <strong><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/beth/archives/2007/08/guinea_keets.html">Farm of Argghhh! has produced it's first livestock - keets</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Ah, yes.  Bush=Hitler.  To those small minds with no sense of scale, I suppose this action - as documented by <strong><a href="http://jackalopepursuivant.typepad.com/jackalopepursuivant">Jackalope Pursuivant</a></strong> - <strong><a href="http://jackalopepursuivant.typepad.com/jackalopepursuivant/2007/08/bomb-threats-ag.html">planting fake bombs at an Army recruiting station</a></strong>, and equating it to the efforts of the White Rose, seems proportional.  I wonder if they expect to run the same risks and pay the same price as <strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose">Sophie Scholl, her brother Hans Scholl, Alex Schmorell, Willi Graf, Christoph Probst, and Kurt Huber</a></strong>. Heh.  -the Armorer</p>

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<p><strong><a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2007/08/11/#009155">Greyhawk has a Snark Attack</a></strong> over at Milblogs.  And <strong><a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2007/08/11/#009154">Soldier's Mom has some thoughts on the proposed bill to commemorate military spouses</a></strong>... I'm with her - I don't think it was any less tough on Mom when I went to dangerous place than it was on her when Dad went to dangerous places.  How about just *military families* - because, especially in the era of the draft - I rather suspect more parents got "the knock" than did spouses. -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************<br />
Featured <a href="http://muninn-quotheraven.blogspot.com/">YouTube Smackdown</a> video for August 13:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHtgmWHlLbo">العجز الأمريكي : الأمريكان عجزوا عن إزالة عبوة ناسفة</a> - muslmon</p>

<p>You don't need to know Arabic to understand what this video is about... - Rickbert<br />
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<p>Being a Soldier's Angel is all about being for the soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, coastie.  But sometimes, <strong><a href="http://fuzzilicious.blogspot.com/2007/08/meeting-sgt-x-connections-and-mysteries.html">even Angel's get a pat on the back</a></strong>, in a big way.  -the Armorer</p>

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<p>Bemusing comment on the state of politics in America, when <strong><a href="http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/karl_rove_29_favorable">Karl Rove - the Spawn of Satan Himself</a></strong> (as labeled by <strong><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/">Kossacks</a></strong>), has a higher approval rating  than <strong><a href="http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/congressional_performance">Congress</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone"</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from olga on 2007-08-13</title>
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        that jihad Youtube video is disgusting. I had to sign up with youtube to get to watch it but I cannot believe that the site will host this video!  
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    <published>2007-08-14T03:55:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-13</title>
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        I pinged Chris about that today.  Sent him a note with a &quot;minus 10&quot; for spelling.
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    <published>2007-08-13T23:13:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2007-08-13</title>
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        Hey, Muir spelled Argghhh! wrong in today&apos;s DBD.  What&apos;s up with that?  

And the Navy has got better things to do than worry about a second rate power that is desperately trying to assert it&apos;s still a superpower.  Things like JTFHOA and other MOOTW stuff that&apos;s working toward winning the Long War by means other than warheads on foreheads.  Dealing amicably with foreigners is something the USN has done for a long time(well, they&apos;ve tried, the amicable isn&apos;t always so solid).  So it ain&apos;t like the USN is sitting on its patoot.  I wonder what the Farts and Darts set is doing?  
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    <published>2007-08-13T23:04:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-08-13</title>
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        I don&apos;t know why governments across the political spectrum would find that shocking...after all when we were there we watched incidents on West German television of East German guards shooting at defectors.  And the Engineer was a Cav Scout on the border...

&apos;Nuff said.
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    <published>2007-08-13T21:41:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-13</title>
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        Hey, as I&apos;ve said elsewhere - gives the Air Force and Navy something to do.

And gives us an idea about Russian military readiness, etc.
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    <published>2007-08-13T16:55:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from UtahMan on 2007-08-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[Never mind, <a href="http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/08/11/the-bear-box/" rel="nofollow">Lex</a> already got there.]]>
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    <title>Comment from UtahMan on 2007-08-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[So are the bad old days back?

<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0982324620070809?feedType=RSS" rel="nofollow">"Russian bomber jets resume Cold War sorties"</a>
(Yes, they're Bears, not Backfires. It's Reuters. At least they got the Russian part right.)
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    <published>2007-08-13T15:51:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2007-08-13</title>
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        mmmmmmm smell that?
I love the scent of Scrappleface in the morning....

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    <published>2007-08-13T13:20:36Z</published>
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