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  <updated>2008-12-03T12:56:35Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for H&amp;I Fires* 1 Aug 07</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849</id>
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    <published>2007-08-02T04:28:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-14T21:02:46Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 1 Aug 07</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ********************************* Hey, when Big Government lovin&apos; maple-syrup &apos;n beer swillin&apos; Alan has a mildly conservative moment - how can I *not* link it? Especially a post that opens up this way: What Next...No Butter Knives? by alan [5:01 PM July 31, 2007] I am not exactly a candidate for NRA membership but this bit of news...</summary>
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      <name>Denizens</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

<p>*********************************<br />
Hey, when Big Government lovin' maple-syrup 'n beer swillin' Alan has a mildly conservative moment - how can I *not* link it?  Especially a post that opens up this way:</p>

<blockquote>
What Next...No Butter Knives?
by alan  [5:01 PM July 31, 2007]  
 
I am not exactly a candidate for NRA membership but this bit of news about shutting down a Toronto university shooting range with a perfect track record smacks heavily of something very smelly:
</blockquote>

<p>To find out more - <strong><a href="http://www.genx40.com/archives/2007/july/whatnextno">click here</a></strong>.</p>

<p>Moving back down south...</p>

<p>Given the, *ahem* good press the farm bill is getting right now - and our recent assumption of the mantle of "farmer," it seems appropriate at this time that though are at least two programs we could qualify for, SWWBO and I do not intend to apply for government largesse with taxpayer dollars to subsidize our dream here.  We will, however, take advantage of the tax laws that favor our endeavor - and have already in terms of sales taxes on farming-related equipment and keeping the land in agricultural use so that the property is taxed at agricultural rates.</p>

<p>And we're providing money-making opportunities to *real farmers* in the management of our property.</p>

<p>Just thought I should say that.  If I was *relying* on the farm as a primary source of income, I might well feel differently, but the programs I looked at that we qualify for seem to incentivize bad planning, with the possible exception of the crop reserve program - which I'm not applying to because I don't want to give the government even more reasons to tell me what I can, and can't do with the land than it already has.  -the Amorer</p>

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<p>Larry K sent along this video - I haven't discovered where the secret tractor meets are in Leavenworth County yet - outside the county fair...</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone"</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62889</id>
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    <title>Comment from DougK on 2007-08-02</title>
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        <![CDATA[What? You want Bollywood and tractors? I'LL give you Bollywood and tractors!...with drama, dialogue, and tension you can cut with a knife...(and just for you)  ;-)

<a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=6f22e8696183c9ed1f2cf2338ef73857" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=6f22e8696183c9ed1f2cf2338ef73857" rel="nofollow">http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=6f22e8696183c9ed1f2cf2338ef73857</a></a>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-02T23:14:17Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-02T23:14:17Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62857</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-02</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[And a RATO assist. <a href="http://www.spaceline.org/rocketsum/atlas-agena-b.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>An Agena B</strong></a> should do the trick...]]>
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    <published>2007-08-02T05:32:20Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-02T05:32:20Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62856</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-02</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Would that be the English Moonbat or an African Moonbat?</em>

Which ones carry the cocoanuts and which ones *are* the cocoanuts?

<em>What? No comments about the Bollywood tractor extravaganza?</em>

We see that every day over here. We refer to it as "normal traffic conditions"...

<em>John will have to practice tractor jumping sekritly.</em>

I'm thinking he'll need a downhill run with a trampoline at the end and a *big* sawdust pile on the other side of the tractor.]]>
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    <published>2007-08-02T05:22:15Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-02T05:22:15Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62854</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-08-01</title>
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        Oh.  So that is what it was.  I were a wondering why the tractors were all ancient not to mention
palm trees...they only grow in SoCal, Arizona, NM
and the rest of the southern US.

John will have to practice tractor jumping sekritly.
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    <published>2007-08-02T04:39:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62851</id>
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    <title>Comment from The Thomas on 2007-08-01</title>
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        What? No comments about the Bollywood tractor extravaganza?
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    <published>2007-08-02T04:13:32Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-02T04:13:32Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62850</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Studies by the Commonwealth Fund found that 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room, vs. 12% in the U.S.; 57% waited 4 weeks or more to see a specialist, vs. 23% in the U.S.</em> -- from the References in the Chaoulli v Quebec link (above)

<em>Even the most right wing party makes it a platform to improve wait times.</em>

So (to cherry pick one aspect) you agree that the system, as presently constituted, is in need of an overhaul in the wait-time area -- which brings me back to my original question: Do the immigration stats correlate -- if there is a correlation -- with the increase in health care recipients that's knocking the program further out of kilter?

*sipping a cup of coffee 'cause there's no maple syrup over here*

*and you need a license (heh) to drink a beer*]]>
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    <published>2007-08-02T04:04:52Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62847</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan</name>
        <uri>http://www.genx40.com</uri>
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        Universal, excellent, available when you need it?  Why worry about what you haven&apos;t experienced?  Just glad for a quad bypass, bowel cancer surgery, chemo, a kid born at 26 weeks, a miscarriage and all the regular stuff that happens it served generations of my family well.  At least two would be dead in another system as the people involved would not have had the coverage.  Sadly that means more to me than the warm glow of general ideology.

Sure the Chaoulli case happened. Big whoop. How many cases about health care occur in Canada and the US all the time?  No constitutional cases in the US, of course, as there is no right to health care.  But we have it and the courts make sure it is provided in a timely fashion.  So what is the result in Canada?  Even the most right wing party makes it a platform to improve wait times.  And they have improved.  Gee...improved socialist services and a Court that works for the population.  What a nightmare.
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    <published>2007-08-02T02:24:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Yu-ain Gonnano on 2007-08-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Moonbats migrate?</em>

Would that be the English Moonbat or an African Moonbat?]]>
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    <published>2007-08-01T21:58:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62843</id>
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    <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-08-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[Alan - The problem is that your system may be working fine now (although that is not what we hear from what few conservatives are left in Canada), how will it hold up to legions of liberals coming North and settling in.  BTW, since liberals have abortions at <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005277" rel="nofollow">5 times the rate</a> of those who ID themselves as conservative; they will be using up your resources without providing a younger generation to pay into the system... ]]>
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    <published>2007-08-01T19:17:23Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62842</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Ummmm, not fer nothin', but the Supreme Court of Canada thinks there's a *big* problem -- including Canada's health system being in violation of Section Seven of Canada's Charter.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaoulli_v._Quebec" rel="nofollow"><strong>Chaoulli v. Quebec</strong></a>

A regional decision with national implications. From the closing commentary: <em>There are those who argue that this decision could potentially lead to the dismantling of the Canadian Medicare system. While others suggest that this could be a much needed wake-up call to repair the ailing system.</em>
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    <published>2007-08-01T19:11:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-01</title>
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        Hee!  Why did I suspect that would bring Alan in?

I dunno.  I can&apos;t keep track of who&apos;s lying to me about what anymore.
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    <published>2007-08-01T18:38:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan</name>
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        You&apos;ve been fed a line on health care being an issue in Canada.  
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    <published>2007-08-01T18:03:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7849-comment:62837</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        Ummmm -- just out of idle curiosity, anybody bored enough to ferret out how the immigration stats correlate -- if there is a correlation -- with the increase in health care recipients that&apos;s knocking the program further out of kilter?

I suspect that not *all* of the newbies are as young and chipper as the ones depicted in the article...
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    <published>2007-08-01T17:56:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        Moonbats migrate?
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    <published>2007-08-01T17:24:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jim b on 2007-08-01</title>
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        <name>jim b</name>
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        <![CDATA[Perhaps some of Canada's problem is that they are letting in a lot of our "Good Riddance" People.

<em><a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005&page=1" rel="nofollow">Blame Canada!</a> 

It may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans. 

The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000. 

In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.</em>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-01T17:04:54Z</published>
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