Comments for Guns for Reeboks... We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:37:10 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Guns for Reeboks... I'm neutral on the whole gun-exchange program thing, as long as the exchanges aren't *prompting* theft by jerks who go stealing guns in order to get stuff - hence, I tend to prefer item exchanges to cash payment programs. And, if people have guns laying around they want to get rid of, are afraid of, and aren't willing to take 'em down to a dealer or pawn shop - hey, it's better than them sitting in the trash. Two people, both readers, sent me links to this story about a recent exchange event in Orlando - where people gave up... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:43:04 -0600 Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-08-22 JoA! Stop that Sir, pleez! You are messing with my mind, making my brain hurt, sticking the cyber-icepick through my eye socket and waving it around in there! Please explain this silliness! (Only yours, of course; nobody can explain my silliness.) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63463 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63463 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:11:54 -0600 Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-22 that *I* embedded in this post - is that a Manlaw Violation? Hmmm. I guess not. Jimbo got there first. Okay.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63454 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63454 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:19:53 -0600 Comment from Ymarsakar on 2007-08-22 Folks who don't normally hang around with Uniforms think everything painted OD will go *boom* if you look at it crosseyed -- Well, they will go boom if you are a jihadist firing mortars and called out to Allah, and Allah smited you causze he was pissarsed. Link ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63453 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63453 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:28 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-22 Actually, Sis, bringing a TOW tube to a gun exchange is like bringing a dog sled to an auto show -- minus the Huskies. The guy who traded the tube for the sneaks got the best of the deal... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63447 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63447 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:29:50 -0600 Comment from AFSister on 2007-08-21 Bill- I know the launcher's pretty much useless after it's used... which is why I brought up the "I can't believe he couldn't get rid of it" comment. But come on... you have to admit that bringing a launcher to a gun exchange is kinda like bringing a Sherman tank to a antique car show. "neener, neener... mine's kewler than yours!" It's cool how the "Army of Davids" took care of this story! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63443 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63443 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:52:39 -0600 Comment from Ymarsakar on 2007-08-21 Problem lies in disposing of the tube. Folks who don't normally hang around with Uniforms think everything painted OD will go *boom* if you look at it crosseyed -- kinda like Grim splitscreening... Yes, last time that happened I think a star went nova. Heh. I've *offered* to help CNN and AFP and AP with this sort of stuff - but they don't care, really. Well, John, maybe you're just too high class for them to afford. Their warfare mandates that they try to acquire munitions from a Scott Thomas Beau type, given the pricing. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63430 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63430 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:33:21 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-21 We had fun, anyway! The LEA folks had mixed emotions, from the tenor of the article. They got to see memorabilia and collectibles but *not* what they were looking for -- the gats the gangbangers use. A fifty-buck coupon for cheap-sneaks isn't going to tempt a scuzzbucket to turn in his nine-hundred dollar persuader. They probably got some kid-tempters out of people's closets, though...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63414 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63414 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:00:55 -0600 Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-20 Went to read the updated article - they acknowledge it up front, and don't try to sneak it in like some outlets do. Good on 'em. My services as a consultant on the issue of ordnance are *still* available... though admittedly, if the police told 'em, well, they thought they *had* the expert answer. Police knowledge on this subject is very spotty. Some LEO EOD people know this stuff cold - but many don't know it as well as they think they do - especially if it's older stuff. We had fun, anyway! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63411 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63411 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:05:58 -0600 Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-20 Andy - the "Army of David's" does it's work once again! Heh. I've *offered* to help CNN and AFP and AP with this sort of stuff - but they don't care, really. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63410 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63410 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:02:46 -0600 Comment from andy on 2007-08-20 The article has been updated to pretty clearly say that it was *not* a missile, or indeed anything more dangerous than a "carrying case." They've changed the headline, the photo caption, and added a correction to the beginning of the article. Not that that undoes any of the damage caused by the original misinformation, but at least they've fixed it... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63409 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63409 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:05:59 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-20 Those covers on the ends were one of the things that tripped me up on the fired vs. live issue. The covers are only there to keep the missile snug until it's party time, Jeff. Loosen the retaining screw, flip off the clamp and no more cover. Sojer-proof, too. You can't load the launcher with the covers still in place -- although it's been tried...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63407 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63407 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:16:18 -0600 Comment from HomefrontSix on 2007-08-20 I heard this on the radio yesterday and was blown away (no pun intended). Now that I have the context, it's not quite so shocking. Amusing, yes. But not shocking. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63406 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63406 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:54:00 -0600 Comment from Parrothead Jeff on 2007-08-20 Doh! Sorry for the double post. A correction has been posted over on my blog along with an apology for assisting in making John's collecting more difficult. Thanks again guys! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63405 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63405 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:46:58 -0600 Comment from Parrothead Jeff on 2007-08-20 It's stuff like this, how the mis-information propagates, that makes my life as a collector more difficult - with good intentions all around - and is part of what drove me into blogging. I can understand about media and misconceptions - I was in high power rocketry for quite a while. You get some raised eyebrows when you carry around a 3" x 36" cardboard tube with plywood fins and a plastic nose cone, even if it is painted as loudly and as brightly as a NASCAR race car and there's nothing in the bottom end.
Dunno why the guy couldn't get rid of it -- it's perfect for keeping rakes upright in the corner of the garage...
Sounds about right to me! Thanks again and keep up the good work! Jeff]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63404 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63404 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:42:54 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-20 Looking crosseyed like Grim splitscreening, not going *boom* like Grim splitscreening. Oooog. A Horse Lord going *boom* -- *there's* a visual for you... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63402 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63402 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:55:36 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-20 Hiya, Ymar! No problem disposing of the missile -- just hang it on the nearest launcher and squirt it at that tank crashing through the neighbor's fence or that pesky sniper popping in and out of a cave. [Note: not intended for use against snipers lurking in somnolent volcanoes] Problem lies in disposing of the tube. Folks who don't normally hang around with Uniforms think everything painted OD will go *boom* if you look at it crosseyed -- kinda like Grim splitscreening... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63401 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63401 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:51:58 -0600 Comment from Ymarsakar on 2007-08-20 Disposable missiles that can't be disposed... hrm. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63400 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63400 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:38:33 -0600 Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-20 Hee! I use mine to hold fence t-posts... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63397 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63397 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:16:23 -0600 Comment from BillT on 2007-08-20 AFSis - once the missile has been launched, the only thing left on the tube is the contact for the guidance wire and the (pretty destroyed) wiring disk. Dunno why the guy couldn't get rid of it -- it's perfect for keeping rakes upright in the corner of the garage... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63395 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63395 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:47:59 -0600 Comment from afsister on 2007-08-20 regardles.. you have to admit two things: 1. trading guns for shoes is extremely creative! 2. it's pretty damn funny that he brought a missle launcher to a gun exchange, and that he had tried other ways of getting rid of it but no one would take it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63392 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/08/guns_for_reebok.html#comment-63392 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:52:41 -0600