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  <title>Comments for Castles Still Have Their Uses...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-08-24T10:33:43Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-14T21:02:44Z</updated>
    <title>Castles Still Have Their Uses...</title>
    <summary>...and not just as storage facilities for a certain Armorer&apos;s chump change superb coin collection (see yesterday&apos;s H&amp;I comment thread -- skip past the nose-whacking parts). From this morning&apos;s below-the-fold: Troops foil attack on Hangu fort PESHAWAR (AFP): - Pro-Taliban militants attacked a paramilitary camp in northwestern Pakistan overnight in a clash that wounded a dozen soldiers, officials said Thursday. One militant was killed in the hour-long shootout following the raid on the fort by more than a dozen heavily-armed men...[who] attacked with rockets, hand grenades, and Kalashnikov rifles, but were beaten off. It gets more interesting. [Hangu police chief...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>...and not just as storage facilities for a certain Armorer's <S>chump change</s> superb coin collection (see yesterday's H&I comment thread -- skip past the nose-whacking parts).</p>

<p>From this morning's below-the-fold:</p>

<blockquote><strong>Troops foil attack on Hangu fort</strong>

<p>PESHAWAR (AFP): - Pro-Taliban militants attacked a paramilitary camp in northwestern Pakistan overnight in a clash that wounded a dozen soldiers, officials said Thursday.</p>

<p>One militant was killed in the hour-long shootout following the raid on the fort by more than a dozen heavily-armed men...[who] attacked with rockets, hand grenades, and Kalashnikov rifles, but were beaten off.</blockquote></p>

<p>It gets more interesting.</p>

<blockquote>[Hangu police chief Ghulam Mohammad] said the body of a militant killed in the fighting was lying in the fort. Others fled in the darkness...the attackers are thought to have come from the nearby tribal region of North Waziristan where the army is hunting pro-Taliban and al-Qaeda militants who fled Afghanistan...</blockquote>

<p>The fort at Hangu is a two-story Brit edifice -- if you read any of Kipling's ghost stories from the Raj, you can probably visualize it. Mud brick, loopholes, parapet, the whole nine yards. *No* moat, *no* massive wooden main gate, night assault with modern weapons into -- for all intents -- a barracks with a sentry box and a couple of roving fireguards. At least one attacker, who may (or may not) have been wearing a boom-belt, penetrated and was promptly dispatched.</p>

<p>Attacking a castle, even when most of the inhabitants are asleep, is not a good idea.<br />
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <br />
Thanks for all the offers of CARE packages (both here and via e-gram), but I dragged all the need-to-haves over with me, and, given the Byzantine routing of our mail (more on that later), we'll be out of here before anything from stateside arrives at Shangri-La.</p>

<p>One need-to-have suite I was *specifically* told -- in writing -- to bring was dress-me-ups so that I wouldn't embarrass the United States of America at Ambassadorial functions.</p>

<p>Kids, *that* is funnier than you could ever possibly imagine.</p>

<p>Those Who Know, Know.<br />
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
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        &apos;Fess up.

How many of you read the wiki entry and then tried it to see if it&apos;d make you dizzy?

Now you know why blowtorch drivers act the way they do...
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    <published>2007-08-24T22:10:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[For those of you who *think* you don't know what valsalva means... <strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver" rel="nofollow">you really do</a></strong>.  Honest.]]>
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    <published>2007-08-24T21:36:27Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-24T21:36:27Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from HH on 2007-08-24</title>
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        I was Air Force, learned valsalva long time ago.  It really helps on combat descents.  Less trouble than taking meds to handle the ear pain.
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    <published>2007-08-24T21:28:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
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        I got my embarrassment shot off in Vietnam.

Geez, pickin&apos; on an emotional cripple...
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    <published>2007-08-24T20:13:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from bad cat robot on 2007-08-24</title>
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        do *try* to pay attention, SugarButtons.  Embarrassment, lack of, is your feature.  I&apos;d say it had been surgically removed but that would require some proof that it ever existed.
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    <published>2007-08-24T19:46:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[BCR - Clothes are a feature?

Okay, after reading Tim's TINS, I concede that clothes are a feature.

Just a *peripheral* feature. Uhhhh -- the *type* of clothing is peripheral, not clothing <em>per se</em>. Or the occasions of the wearing thereof.

Gratuitous Disclaimer: No Zulus or Squids were injured during the preparation of this comment.]]>
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    <published>2007-08-24T18:44:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AW1 Tim on 2007-08-24</title>
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        Heh,

  I learned the valsalva trick first week in aircrew school. Came in handy, too.

  But i digress. TINS alert: French Embassy, Dakar, Senegal. 1979 or thereabouts.....

  My crew was invited to attend a party at the French Embassy in Dakar along with the US Embassador and other such Nabobs. We were based there while support a US Carrier task group.

   Long story short, we arrived all a-medalled and spit-polished like, hairs priperly cut and all such things squared away all Navy-like, etc.

   Apparently, the theme was &quot;Zulus &amp; Colinial&quot; night. The waiters were spiffily dressed locals, all wearing matching white choker-collar jackets and red fez&apos;s, black pants. Everything gleamed and the tables were piled high with various foodstuffs, sweet meats, and the bar was properly stocked and easily located. By the pool. Outdoors. Torches. Then there was the French....

     The French embassador and all his entourage, etc, were in mufti, as it were. Grass skirts. Blackface. Plastic bones through noses. Afro-wigs. I kid you not. It was the most surreal experience in my life, and between the places I&apos;ve been and the amount I&apos;ve drank, that&apos;s saying something.

     Here were these supposedly cultured Euro-Elites and they were dancing around in costume whilst the locals were all dressed to the nines with proper servant&apos;s clothing. No wonder colonialism died out.

     Our Navy staff took one look, made some quick rounds, we had one drink, and took our leave, thank you very much.

     To this day I fully understand whY the French were so loathed in certain quarters. 
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    <published>2007-08-24T18:28:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from bad cat robot on 2007-08-24</title>
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        As those of the more technically-inclined SugarButtons Brigade would agree, this is a classic instance of &quot;it&apos;s not a bug, it&apos;s a feature!&quot;
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    <published>2007-08-24T18:27:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>As if clothes are going to make a difference in the embarrassment factor.</em>

Truer than you know, kat!

*snicker*
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    <published>2007-08-24T18:23:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-08-24</title>
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        As if clothes are going to make a difference in the embarrassment factor.
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    <published>2007-08-24T17:00:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...to bring ratchet up the Entertainment Index...</em>

Been studying the local version of English, ain'tcha? Not bad, but you've gotta trill your "ahr"s more...]]>
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    <published>2007-08-24T16:45:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-08-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[Alcohol? <em>Moi</em>?

I get dizzy enough just holding my breath in the shower so's I don't get the local version of water in my mouth.

Or ears. I'm the only guy here who can still do the valsalva maneuver.

*That* line oughta draw comments from the chandelier-swingers faster than a Catnip Cosmo...]]>
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    <published>2007-08-24T16:40:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-08-24</title>
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        Nothing like Stuffed Shirts and Alcohol to bring ratchet up the Entertainment Index...
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    <published>2007-08-24T12:26:17Z</published>
    <updated>2007-08-24T12:26:17Z</updated>
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