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By The Armorer on August 24, 2007 | | Comments (10) | TrackBacks (0)

Simply identify all the items in this picture. Sorry to block the pretties with that hogleg on top, Neffi...

This one will be easy for the geeks, challenging but doable for naifs.

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This is another pic of what's available in the markets of Afstan. Stateside, my budget and the availability of that type of pistol haven't matched yet. Over there, it probably costs what a Happy Meal does... Just another reason I can't go to Afstan!

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By SezaGeoff on August 24, 2007 8:52 AM
Ha - I am in the US (Detroit) so I am on your timezone. The big pic is big enough to read the frame stamps, and it says it is a Webley Royal Irish Constabulary model, so it should be in .442 Webley. Of course, it may just be a copy and it should be RUC! And why are there so many P14/M1917 bayonets there? Lebel spikes with hooked quillions that make them pretty old too! Be fun to visit, but I don't think they would ever let me back into OZ with what I would like to buy.
 
By MajMike on August 24, 2007 10:13 AM
rotary boom sticks plus some pokey thingies.... ..and if they are really constbulary pieces, then they are more properly identified as "tools of the occupier (but not so much anymore)"
 
By BillT on August 24, 2007 12:56 PM
Hubley "Centennial" cap pistol, ca. 1953. The matte finish on the pseudoteak bakelite grips is a dead giveaway...
 
By AW1 Tim on August 24, 2007 1:12 PM
Shipmates, Well, it might be a Webley, but I suspect it and it's cousin up above are pot metal, or whatever the slag du jour happened to be the day they were made. These look very much like the Afghan/Pakistan/India fake guns you see as wall hangers and sold through ebay and the tourist bazaars. Cheap wood grips stained with a mix of alcohol and shoe polish, etc. Rub a little wax on the surface, ryn a wash of thin black oil paint over the metal and wipe down, and voila! Le Antique Instante! Might they be real? Yeah, they might be. But my money, or donuts, is on them being fakes. Bayonets are prolly the real deal, though. And watch the h@ll out for those P-53 Enfield rifle-muskets. I've handled a couple brought back that folks tried to pass off as "Confederate" civil war arms. They are almost all 4th model that never made it to the states, and many have substandard parts made locally to fill in for corroded or missing pieces. You fire these at your own risk. Respects,
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 24, 2007 1:22 PM
Well, since they're in Afghanistan, I'm thinking we're mostly safe, Tim.
 
By BillT on August 24, 2007 2:56 PM
You fire these at your own risk. You don't have to. If you tell the gunsmith (they have these marts on the Pak side of the border, too) you want it for real, live use, he'll load it, walk out on the street and shoot at passing airliners until you're convinced of the quality of his work. Satisfaction guaranteed -- because the unwritten warranty allows the dissatisfied customer (or his heirs) to return and use the merchandise as a bludgeon to crush the manufacturer's fingers. Quality Control, 'Stan-style...
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 24, 2007 6:12 PM
Yanno, I need to put in an order with Joe - if he sees a hooked-quillon Enfield bayonet (vice the P14s) he should snatch 'em up.
 
By David M on August 26, 2007 12:21 PM
Not to be snarky, but the hooked quillon in that photo I believe belongs to a WWI French Lebel Rifle Bayonet not the Enfield Bayonets...
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 26, 2007 12:55 PM
David - I meant what I said - if Joe *sees* a hooked-quillon Enfield bayonet, I want one. I didn't say the ones in the pic were enfield bayos - as Geoff noted first off, they're Lebel bayonets. I do have *some* idea of the difference between the two types... Just sayin' 8^ )
 
By David M on August 26, 2007 2:26 PM
Yes, I'm well aware of that...I just didn't notice any hooked quillons in that photo that belonged to any Enfield Bayonets. Besides, I had missed that point made by Geoff.
 

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