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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I Fires* 20 July 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-07-21T04:31:45Z</published>
    <updated>2007-07-26T17:24:35Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 20 July 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... Saw the latest Harry Potter movie last weekend. It was fine, but like the one before it, I didn&apos;t enjoy it near as much as I had the first movies. Thinking about it over the week, I&apos;ve come to realize why - the later books in the series are so long, with the little sub-plots, that...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

<p>Saw the latest Harry Potter movie last weekend.  It was fine, but like the one before it, I didn't enjoy it near as much as I had the first movies.  Thinking about it over the week, I've come to realize why - the later books in the series are so long, with the little sub-plots, that they'd make 4 hour movies to do a thorough job of them.</p>

<p>So, what's the beef?  The beef is that in the movies, we get the self-absorbed, angst-ridden, angry impulsive teenager Harry (mind you, he's earned it!) and all the darkness of the books - but cutting out all the subplots (S.P.E.W. anyone?  Sirius' House Elf and the whole Black family mudblood thing - heck, they cut Sirius' mother's portrait completely out of the movie) that made the books fun for me.  In other words, for me, to keep the movies of a manageable length, they're cutting out exactly the parts that drew me to the series, while keeping the part (grappling with his demons like a teenager will Harry) that usually has me grinding my teeth.</p>

<p>The point is - with the books it works.  With the movies, it leaves me disappointed.  I'll be getting the book tomorrow, mind you - I like the books.  But I may skip the rest of the movies.</p>

<p>Your mileage may vary.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>********************************</p>

<p>The Air Force makes a bold move.  It shouldn't be a bold move, but in our current Military/Civil Leadership/Grievance Industry/Self-absorbed national mood it is.  From Jim Dunnigan over at Strategy Page:</p>

<blockquote>The U.S. Air Force has rebelled against the annoying late 20th century custom of creating many annual training courses to deal with persistent social or organizational problems. From now on, instead of spending nine hours a year attending training for things like suicide prevention, anti-terrorism awareness, handling classified data, sex related issues, and so on, only 90 minutes a year would be used for all these reminders. This move is very popular among those who have to sit through these sessions, and those who have to give them. The troops are also encouraged by such a bold move. In the past, every time another of these annual classes was added, there was grumbling about "spineless and clueless generals," and "damn politicians." </blockquote>

<p>Catch the rest here, at <strong><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2007719211753.asp">"USAF Generals Cut the Crap."</a></strong>  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Here's a picture that should warm the heart of every cold-warrior out there: <a href="http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&catalog=photos&template=detail_e.np&field=itemid&op=matches&value=28144&site=combatcamera"><strong>Soviet armour rusting in long lines</strong></a> in a "tank graveyard."   - Damian</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Hah!  <strong><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19845784/">All y'all are gonna catch up</a></strong>!  Who knew nukes would make me a trend-setter?  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Snerk!  <strong><a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/news/stories/2007/07/19/smoking_0720.html">Congress should compel the firearms industry to target gangs with advertising...</a></strong>  And the alcohol and condom industry, too...  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone"</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-07-22</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Snerk, YP, you aren&apos;t a long time reader &apos;round here, that&apos;s obvious enough.

I give the Soviets credit here and there, at the soldier/individual citizen level, for their performance in WWII.

But if you&apos;re expecting a paean to Stalin as well, your pissing up a rope.

And as a &quot;Cold Warrior&quot; with brief flashes of hot over a 24 year span, yeah, the sight of rusting soviet armor doesn&apos;t bother me that much.

Much better than the sight of burned out hulks of soviet armor littering the North German Plain - not to mention the German, Brit, US, and other allied armor joining it.

As for Afghanistan - and the Soviet involvement there, hey, sometimes they weren&apos;t always on the wrong side of things.

But dude - take the comment in context, eh?


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    <published>2007-07-22T15:03:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Young Pioneer on 2007-07-22</title>
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        When were those Soviet tanks used but to fight the Nazis and the Islamic loonies in Afghanistan?

America should be ashamed for pussy-footing around while the Soviets were attacked by the Krauts. Then we supplied arms and aid to the very same people that flew planes into our buildings and killed 3000 innocent people.

I don&apos;t see much to cheer about. Don&apos;t break your arms patting yourselves on the back.
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    <published>2007-07-22T12:49:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-07-21</title>
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        I think it would work better as a television series...good grief they could keep it going for 
twenty years.

Heh.

Just finished DH at noon.

We took the CLUs to the party and the youngest one crashed on one of the camp chairs.  We saw lotsa friends and just out of curiosity; does crime go down for a bit after the release of the HP books?
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    <published>2007-07-21T20:09:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-07-21</title>
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        Trias - not really.  They could do it like Lord of the Rings.  Film it all at once, then edit &apos;em into the discrete movies... and then release &apos;em.

I&apos;m with ya, Walt.  Gimme S.P.E.W. and Kreacher!
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    <published>2007-07-21T14:23:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-07-21</title>
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        Cmon Walter, Harry would be 82 before he finished Hogwarts Jr High if they did that.
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    <published>2007-07-21T11:17:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Walter M. Clark on 2007-07-20</title>
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        I decided a couple of movies back that they just should accept the reality of larger and more complex books and issue TWO movies for each book.  Get all the sub-plots and other great stuff, feed us Potter nuts even more and, and (wait for it) MAKE MORE MONEY FROM THE MOVIES (and popcorn, etc.).

I know, it&apos;s too logical and reasonable for the entertainment folks to understand. Oh, well.

Walter
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    <published>2007-07-21T03:15:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-07-20</title>
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        The CLUs and I saw it last week.  Kreacher wasn&apos;t nearly as &apos;fun&apos; as he was in the book and Bellatrix was okay...and somehow, Umbridge wasn&apos;t nearly as nasty as I would have expected.  She is a piece of work, but I was thinking along the lines of the actress who played the medium from Poltergeist.

Yeah, we will be standing in line for our copy.
This November I have a meeting in Utah.


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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2007-07-20</title>
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        um well... it&apos;s a perfect fit in the &quot;Funny But True&quot; category and I *will* be printing it, though I spent my time in the gunner and TC seats.
Kinda sad to see all that Russki armor mouldering away when we had plenty APDS to go around...
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-07-20</title>
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        Yet not a peep from you about the &quot;Strange things go into tanks&quot; post...?

;^ )
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    <published>2007-07-20T19:43:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2007-07-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[Loader- load beehive, muzzle-action! Gunner! Battlesight! Woodchuck! <em><strong>FIRE!</strong></em>
How many flechettes could a woodchuck duck, if a woodchuck had duck luck?
Sorry...]]>
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    <title>Comment from J. Mark English on 2007-07-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[I feel your pain guys...
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    <title>Comment from Damian on 2007-07-20</title>
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        One of those would make one helluva varmint-plinker, eh John?
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-07-20</title>
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        They should sell &apos;em!  As tractors!  I&apos;d buy one.

Well, mebbe not.  Gotta cross a 7 ton culvert to get to the barn...
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