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Heh. The more things change...

...the things stay the same. Nanny-minded politicians never learn.

A potential tax of $10... per cigar. And, btw, it would apply to current inventory as well - which is one thing if it were to be collected at the point of sale... a pessimistic reading of the bill would have it be paid up front by the merchant.

All for the children, of course. To fund their health care, we'll use sin taxes which, if they have the desired effects, will be a self-defeating tax (i.e., people will quit smoking cigars) leaving us with an unfunded program... which means we'll have to fund it somehow - sorry 'bout that tax increase for the program we sold you as only being a tax increase on people with bad habits or who are rich, anyway! It's for the kids, donchaknow.

Heh. Memo for the political class: Can you say "Overnight expansion of gangs and organized crime into cigar smuggling?"

I knew you could. This is just dumb and not well thought out. You can't do this with a sin tax and *not* increase crime. How many teenagers and 20-somethings will we kill (via law enforcement activity) and will kill each other due to gang turf wars to fund children's health care?

You strip out crimes of passion and suicides, and the vast bulk of gun violence in this country is gang/crime related, and mostly has revolved around attempts to ban or heavily tax perceived sin. That *big* spikes in that kind of violence (not counting the splashy political killings of the civil rights era that gave us the Gun Control Act of 1968) can be measured by the laws created to control gang violence... such as the National Firearms Act of 1934, in response to the turf wars being fought over distribution rights during... Prohibition, and the McClure-Volkmer Act of 1986 and the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, in response to violence mostly related to.... the "Drug War." In other words, arguably, the big, sustained surges in gun violence are usually related to crime, and most often criminal activities that have become more lucrative because of political action.

If we don't do silly things like try to effectively ban sin (vice control it and regulate it)... we really don't have a huge gun problem in this country.

But on this subject, we seem to... shoot ourselves in the foot, time and time again.

BTW, I don't smoke. And I lost my mother (who did smoke, like a chimney) to lung cancer this year, and it was ugly to watch. And yes, I think this law, as written, is just dumb.

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I agree, John. As long as there is a demand, there will be a supply .. most usually provided by violent criminals in the black market, aided and abetted by authority elements in the political and law enforcement class who profit from corruption and kickbacks. The best way to reduce these types of "sins" is to come up with better ways to reduce the demand for them. We need to stop glorifying and promoting their use/abuse in media and entertainment, better educate people on the negative consequences of using them, offer alternative "escapes from reality" that aren't as harmful, and address those issues and needs that compel people to "escape from reality" in the first place.
 
Yes, how to fund health programs through the sin tax...discourage the sin but don't outlaw it to keep revenue going...but don't be seen as promoting it.
 
I was having this dicussion with the CLU#1 about three weeks ago, and raised the first half of the issue which was if you discourage a vice through a tax, and do it well enough that the money drops off, then you have an unfunded program and either have to promote the vice or find another source of revenue. He asked me about the black market then...so he took it to your conclusion and well, I am so proud of the lad! We were talking about Richard Mayberry's excellent economics primer 'Whatever Happened To Penny Candy?' I highly recommend that one as an introduction to government meddling and taxes. Thanks again John for having a blog with high quality content. I hope you don't mind, but I do use yours and Cass's blog to teach writing. No, I don't even dare print it out, but they have to read it and look up the relevant sources used to sustain cause and effect in lawmaking and politics. WOO HOO!!!!
 
Like John I'm a non-smoker who lost his mother to smoking induced lung cancer. And like John I think this manages to be one of the stupider ideas I've heard out of Gov't - and that's not an easy mark to hit.
 
You need help with hay baling and removal? I am currently available on certain days of the weeks and weekend, barring angeling activities, particularly in the evening or early morning hours when it is cool. And, I need to lose some weight. ;) What do you need?
 
Ah, clever woman! Your offer of assistance arrived... (well, was read) after the last bale was stacked. Next time, we'll make a party of it. This time, I'm kinda glad we did it ourselves - to prove to myself that those things which cause the VA to pay me can be worked through doing this sort of thing, and I have a much better appreciation of what needs doing for next time. Like the amount of beer/Powerade/water per person we'll have to lay in, based on my personal consumption rates. And we'll have a bigger trailer.
 
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