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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... What? No one had anything to say today? Great. Guess that means I get to lead off with my own. Soldiers&apos; Angels Kansas City had a very successful mission on Sunday. We held a Poker Run and BBQ to raise money for First Response Back Packs for our wounded troops. I will have video and a...</description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:23:41 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-06-05</title>
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                Welcome, CL2!  *Do* read responsibly!

8^ D
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            <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:10:26 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from htom on 2007-06-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[Kokesh has been (or will be) recommended for a General Discharge. Whether higher will do that, and whether Kokesh will continue to beat his head against the wall for free publicity by appealing, who knows.

<a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4861746.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4861746.html</a>]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:08:58 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-06-04</title>
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                I have finally given the CLU2 permission to roam here at Argghhh!  It was a decision I arrived at for several reasons:  The writing, the generally well behaved demeanor of the Denizens and the fact that real heroes are not AlGore milking a steer while he steps in its carbon uh...print.

He will soon be 15 and did come here whenever there were weapons posts, but what tilted for me was John&apos;s analysis of the gun purchase.


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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:26:44 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cl2 on 2007-06-04</title>
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                Hey my mom said I could read the site!


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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:11:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Jon The Mechanic on 2007-06-04</title>
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                Trudy(SHHTBO)says that anyone who watched the proposed debate format and laughed is a deeply disturbed individual.

In the interest of full disclosure, she said it while rolling on the floor and holding her sides as I added a mock translation of the conversations.
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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:33:03 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from ry on 2007-06-04</title>
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                Sorry, but I&apos;m actually a tad busy on my end.  Lots of headshed activity that precludes blogging or being on &apos;puter much.  What&apos;re you guys gonna do if I actually do take a vacation?  Proll&apos;y enjoy the blissful silence from my little corner of The Castle.:)

On the massacre thing.  I&apos;m of two minds.  

What do people expect?  that was a hopeless situation.  450 lightly armed Blue Helmets with a complicated chain of command and ROE filled with MOther May I?s that can only be answered by someone sleeping in Turtle Bay(and can&apos;t possibly have his sleep interrupted dontchaknow) vs a 1000+ militia with little qualms about doing anything?  What is it about &apos;chance of sucess&apos; aspect of Just War Theory people were yammering about in last years Israeli-Hezbo war?  That was a no-win.  THey did the best they could it seems to me.  Sure, they did help the massacring mob---but in so doing they saved a large number of women and children.  It&apos;s called triage.  It isn&apos;t the mega-happy ending but that was impossible to begin with(the ROE).  

On the other hand.  I&apos;d rather we told most of the JWT yammerheads to STFU and let the Blue Helmets play hard and mean when necessary without a bunch of bs ROE(that&apos;s why the Marines are part of Barnett&apos;s SysAdmin force).  In this instance I&apos;d rather be talking about 450 posthumous heroes, but in the end they made a tough choice that produced some real positive results.  I can&apos;t argue with that.  Particularly when they have such Byzantine ROE.  

Poor wastards.  
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            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:43:36 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2007-06-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[Heh.  I was actually giving Ry a hard time since he is the other one that generally gets the H&I's up.  He must be celebrating the summer vacation a little early. ;)]]>
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