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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <title>H&amp;I* Fires, 17 MAY 2007</title>
            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... *********************************************** Because we don’t like becoming an echo chamber edition: The cost of a life via the NYT. Move past the political snottiness. Does he have a point about a failure to win hearts and minds and does he have the best solution? -- Looks like OD’s worst nightmare over the Afghani poppy field situation is...</description>
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            <title>Comment from ry on 2007-05-18</title>
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                <![CDATA[<blockquote>"I mean when in 2001, MADD reported 44.1 percent of California's drunk driving arrests were of Hispanics, while, officially, they made up just 31.3 percent of the population, someone has to step to the plate and scream "Uhm, Hello?""</blockquote>
And you know what they did in response to that?  Shut down sobriety check points since it was profiling, and, in the words of the esteemed Ron White, profiling is wrong. ]]>
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            <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-05-17</title>
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                Hey, this is one of the few issue&apos;s that I play for keeps on. Full Court press.

I mean when in 2001, MADD reported 44.1 percent of California&apos;s drunk driving arrests were of Hispanics, while, officially, they made up just 31.3 percent of the population, someone has to step to the plate and scream &quot;Uhm, Hello?&quot;

One of those nasty tricks I&apos;ve learned from the Mass media. Folks don&apos;t understand touchy-feely political geography. They do understand body counts.
And a recent survey suggests many of last year&apos;s 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.

Thats more people than has been killed in Iraq in 4 years. But whats the headline reading on CNN?

Yea I&apos;m just a little impassioned. Or maybe bitter is a better word. Take your pick :)
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            <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 23:28:19 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from ry on 2007-05-17</title>
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                BlSp, you don&apos;t mess around do you?  Saw what you put up at Techo&apos;.  Loose nut behind the wheel is right.  

Ted Nugent.  Sigh.  I dunno.  I just can&apos;t get behind the Motor City Madman, Herr Cat Scratch Fever.  Not saying that nobody should just that I can&apos;t.  There&apos;s something about him that puts me off.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:29:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from KCSteve on 2007-05-17</title>
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                <![CDATA[(I'm posting this separately in case John wants to pull it out from comments)

There's a Zumbo Update over at <a href="http://www.tednugent.com/HUNTING/forums/thread/126554.aspx" rel="nofollow">Ted Nugent's place</a>

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Ted, <br />
I recently completed the tactical weapons course under the direction of instructor Pat Rogers. It was a life changing event for me. The course allowed me to become familiar with the firearms, and also to understand what I hadn't realized before.....that black rifles are used and owned by people who are salt of the earth. Fifteen of us took the course, including four women, two doctors, a chef, a retired engineer and law enforcement and military folks. I have to tell you that I was overwhelmingly intimidated the first morning, and was tempted to quit. I had difficulty with the unfamiliar guns, and the course was designed in drill fashion. This was no bench rest scenario where you sat and tried to shoot as accurately as possible. Here we followed very explicit orders by the instructors and shot from sitting, kneeling, standing and prone positions. As the first day wore on, I began to feel more comfortable with the gun and shooting requirements. By the third day I didn't want to leave, and had one of the most incredible experiences of my life when I fired fully auto rifles and handguns. I made great friends among the other students and instructors, and have to tell you that I drove home from the Indiana course with an ear to ear grin. Sitting beside me in my pickup truck was a very large Elmer Fudd doll that was given to the student who screwed up the most. I don't need to explain the reasons why I was the recipient! It was all in great fun, and the outpouring of kindness from the people there was terrific. <p>
Throughout all this, since I wrote that blog in February, I learned many, many things. I want to thank you for understanding, early on, how my words indicated an ignorance about black rifles, and I want to thank you for your efforts in using my ignorance as an example in order to unite all of use who own guns, all guns, whether they're for hunting, shooting, home defense, or simply as collectors items. <p>
Rock on, bloodbrother!<p>
Jim Zumbo   </p></p></p></blockquote>]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 14:18:54 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from KCSteve on 2007-05-17</title>
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                <![CDATA[If this isn't enough we've got some ideas of ways to earn that coveted '<b>F</b>ree State' grade from the Brady's!]]>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-05-17</title>
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                Well, Governor Blunt, as a property owner in your state, SHOW ME your signature.  
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            <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-05-17</title>
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                Here’s what I believe is the elephant in the corner on the whole illegal immigrant issue:
1.	Advocates for the illegals claim we have a labor shortage (I don’t know any state reporting less than 3% unemployment).
2.	They claim that Americans aren’t willing to do the work the illegals do (I don’t know, maybe it’s different in other states, but here in li’l ol’ South Carolina, I have never seen an operation employing “newly arrived” Hispanics, or any other group, that did not have a sizable mix of lighter-skinned and darker-skinned employees.
No, the real answer is Americans are not willing to work for less than minimum wage and they can’t be coerced to work for less as that is against the law and is too easy to track with our social security and tax system.  I know hiring illegals is supposed to be against the law, as well, but the current penalty structure and probability of being held accountable is less than the profit to be gained by those entities that routinely engage in hiring illegals.  This is one reason why, IMHO, that there has not been any movement to fix anything.  If there was amnesty, or guest worker, or fast track citizenship, or any other program that gave the illegals legitimate status, the whole reason employers hire them will have evaporated, because then, the “foreign workers” would have to be paid minimum wage.
The second reason I see, from the other side is politicians who practice demagoguery reap more benefit from a perpetual victim class than from actually solving the problem. 

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            <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-05-17</title>
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                <![CDATA[I find it entertaining, that we can get Congress to refuse to allow Mexican trucks on our highways, citing among the reasons lack of licensing, training, insurance, inspections, etc and say it is a danger to Americans on the roads......
.....yet there are <a href="http://www.igs.berkeley.edu/library/htImmigrantDriverLicenses.html" rel="nofollow">7 to 10 Million Immigrants</a> driving illegally, at least 50% without insurance, and Congress wants to grant them Amnesty despite the clear danger they represent to local crime rates.

Makes perfect sense...right?]]>
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