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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I* Fires, 15 MAY 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-05-16T04:54:02Z</published>
    <updated>2007-05-19T01:14:38Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I* Fires, 15 MAY 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ********************************* On 9 May, I ran a request for assistance: A request for assistance: I must try to communicate if possible to Dustoff 339C, an old army medic as he calls himself. I was really screwed over by LTG Kiley personally and would like for this guy to email me at this email address. PLEASE! It...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

<p>*********************************<br />
On 9 May, I ran a request for assistance:</p>

<blockquote>A request for assistance:

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I must try to communicate if possible to Dustoff 339C, an old army medic as he calls himself. I was really screwed over by LTG Kiley personally and would like for this guy to email me at this email address. PLEASE! It would be so great to get in touch with this person as I could use a ltter of support right now to clear my name.
Scott (Doc in New York)
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Dustoff339C has responded.  Unfortunately, I was a little too zealous in cleaning up my email - so, Scott - if you are still checking, please send me your contact info which I will forward to Dustoff339C at his request.

<p>Moving on - Dusty notes this story in the Canadian press, about <strong><a href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm">"Springtime in Islamberg"</a></strong> a place in the United States.   A tale of separation.  Blackfive notes a tale of assimilation, Pakistan-born <strong><a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/05/first_muslim_av.html">Commander Kahn assuming command of a Navy squadron</a></strong> - but he's got some commenters who see a bogeyman behind every Koran.</p>

<p>The military has banned You-tube and MySpace access from .mil domains.  My checking with PAO people indicates it's a bandwidth issue... although they do acknowledge an OPSEC side-benny (one rather suspects that 1st IO sees it in reverse terms).  The Army PAO says the order will not affect the on-base Internet cafe's CONUS/OCONUS or deployed.  I am also moved to note that many businesses do the same thing for exactly the same reasons - productivity, bandwidth, and security.   Nonetheless - there is an irony to it...  will the ban apply to <strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MNFIRAQ">MNF-Iraq and their very own YouTube site</a></strong>?  Just curious.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************<br />
Yesterday, I got an email from <strong><a href="http://heartlesslibertarian.blogspot.com/">Dave the Heartless Libertarian</a></strong> - about a tough week for Fort Lewis.</p>

<blockquote>
Also, PGR spotting yesterday...

<p>Ft Lewis-based units have lost 9 soldiers in the last week, with 7 of those belonging to the last line battalion I was assigned to, 5-20 IN (Sykes Regulars) of the 3-2 SBCT.  Six of those soldiers were killed in a single IED attack, and were all from the same squad.  Because so many were lost in a single attack, the memorial service had to be moved from the usual location in the Main Post Chapel to Soldiers' Field House, the biggest gym on post.</p>

<p>The other two casualties were from 1st SFG and 4-2 SBCT, that brigade's first since they arrived in country.</p>

<p>Saturday morning when I was taking the boys to get their hair cut (yes, both my sons have high and tights) I noticed a few motorcycles, one sporting a Patriot Guard Rider sticker.  Didn't think much of it, figuring they were just part of the regular contingent that waves flags in support of the troops from the Berkeley Ave overcrossing.</p>

<p>About an hour later, leaving the PX parking lot, there was an MP car sitting in the first intersection, although the signal was working and the LT standing by the car wasn't doing much, just staring down 41st Division Rd in the direction of the airfield.  There was another MP vehicle in the next intersection, this guy actively directing traffic.</p>

<p>Then, as I passed through the main gate, about a dozen bikes pulled out of the post permit office parking lot right in front of me, joining another dozen or so waiting on the I-5N ramp.  That's when it clicked-there must have been a funeral, with the deceased being buried at Mt Tahoma National Cemetary.  And the PGR guys don't have post passes, so they use that parking lot as their 'attack position,' so to speak, for the ride north.</p>

<p>God Speed, guys.<br />
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<p>Godspeed, indeed.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Bill, over at INDC Journal - on <strong><a href="http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/003006.php">one way the media gets it wrong, unintentionally, </a></strong>one wire report at a time.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************<br />
Update on Fort Lewis, Heartless Lib sends: </p>

<blockquote>Note: the memorial service for the six soldiers from 5-20 killed in the IED attack on 6 May will be held today at 1500 in Soldiers' Field House on Fort Lewis.</blockquote>

<p>-the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.genx40.com/archives/2007/may/groupproject#replies">Denizen Alan of GenX@40 has a fascinating post of blogging, consequences, and consequential actions</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>********************************<br />
Goodness.  <strong><a href="http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/004411.html">The Neocons and the  President have lost Grouchy Old Cripple Denny on the war in Iraq</a></strong>.  Though not in the manner you might expect. -the Armorer</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>*Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The <s>UAVs</s> (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone".</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from twolaneflash on 2007-05-17</title>
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        Re:  Lieutenant Commander Khan

I&apos;m one of those commenters at Blackfive.  I don&apos;t see a bogeyman, but I do see a token for the Left&apos;s new darling victim class.  No other religion gets a Navy press release, leading with and emphasizing their religion, when one of their members accomplishes something of note.  This is propaganda pure and simple.  I did not demean Commander Khan, his accomplishment, or his service in protection of The Constitution.  I do take strong exception with this rush to wave the flag of islam over America.
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    <published>2007-05-17T21:29:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-05-16</title>
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        Sorry - Was I being hostile?
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    <published>2007-05-16T17:37:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-05-16</title>
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        Just asking - you don&apos;t see me commenting over there, either.
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    <published>2007-05-16T15:15:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-05-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[No, it's to angry and bitter.  You can't reach someone like that.  It's as crazy as John Edwards and his Memorial Day parade plan.  Are Ron and Denny playing the Jonathan Swift card?  If they were I missed the nuance.  I find it's just depressing to hear someone talk about any race or group of people as "subhuman".  As in this quote: (<blockquote><em>Iraq)...it’s a sewer infested with diseased subhumans operating on instructions from hopelessly contaminated DNA.</em></blockquote>

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    <published>2007-05-16T13:42:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-05-16</title>
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        Maggie - I haven&apos;t checked - but did you leave a comment over at Denny&apos;s?

To provoke that lively debate?
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    <published>2007-05-16T13:25:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-05-16</title>
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        I hope I never become as cynical and hateful as Ron or Denny over at Grouchy Old Cripple.

Denny said he posted it to &quot;Promote lively debate&quot;.  Debate over what?  Ron&apos;s meds?
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    <published>2007-05-16T13:16:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Epicwoman on 2007-05-15</title>
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        I was reading posts and blogs and ran across this article.  Our Washington State PGR State Captain, &quot;Cowboy&quot; was leading that escort.  Yes PGR was at Ft. Lewis and way too many other places across the country.  If you have never visited our site, drop by and visit.  If you agree, membership is open to Patriots.
God Speed and with care,
Linda *epic Snyder
Patriot Guard Riders
National Assistant Captain

and... yes, I ride a Harley Trike with a PGR banner on the windshield. That&apos;s how I can &quot;serve&quot; until all our troops are home safe 

Pray for the Troops
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    <published>2007-05-16T03:04:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2007-05-15</title>
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        I&apos;m of two minds about this whole blog/social website thing.  Sure, the positive message gets out.  But the negative does too.  What&apos;s the point behind the &apos;Strategic Corporal&apos;?  Part of it is that a single bad act outweighs a dozen good ones.  So having a myspace page with &apos;Hammer of God, here to kill all...&apos; is a real loser in the Infowar.  One that some Pakistani paper(like the Nation, which is continually anti-US) can point to as the &apos;real thoughts of the American soldier and people.&apos;  

It&apos;s heavy handed.  I don&apos;t like it entirely.  But if people were using Dusty&apos;s Rule About Posting When Drunk or Hot Under The Collar, or simply using some common sense(do we really want to be putting images and messages that inflame out there?  That&apos;s like walking into a bar and saying &apos;Bring it on, p^$$ies!&apos; to nobody in particular and then wondering why you&apos;re at the bottom of the dog pile getting your nads crushed like walnuts.), maybe Big Mean ol&apos; Army wouldn&apos;t be shutting it down(bandwidth problems or no).  

In a war with no rear areas, no safe zone, the strategic corporal never gets to let his hair down.  Sorry.  But that&apos;s the way I see it.  I wish it wasn&apos;t like that.  Being on 24/7 is a real soul crusher(been there, done that, but not anywhere near this level of stakes).  Mr. Corporal should still say the things he feels, but say it his buddies and family in an email(far more private and unlikely to become infwar ammo) if he&apos;s saying things like that.  A little discretion, not something I was known for at 22 or 25, goes a long way.  
ry
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    <title>Comment from Heartless Libertarian on 2007-05-15</title>
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        Note: the memorial service for the six soldiers from 5-20 killed in the IED attack on 6 May will be held today at 1500 in Soldiers&apos; Field House on Fort Lewis.
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2007-05-15</title>
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        Two things.
1.  I read about Commander Khan&apos;s appointment this morning.  Very interesting... he was quoted as saying &quot;I bleed red, white and blue&quot;, and it would appear the Navy sees that too.  I&apos;m not being sceptical, just curious as to how this will play out over time.  Hopefully it will show that not ALL Muslims are Islamo-facists, and his appointment sheds a good light on their religion here in the States.

2.  Regarding MySpace/Metacafe/YouTube being banned.  I&apos;m disappointed, again, in the military&apos;s lack of understanding of the positive affects of the internet and communcation sources.  The articles I&apos;ve read indicate that ANY government-owned computer will be banned from these sites, regardless of their physical location.  The articles I read also said that privately-owned laptops with internet access at military-supported internet cafe&apos;s will NOT be banned from using these sites.  
Maybe I&apos;m blind and ignorant, but I just see this as another way for the military to shut down communcation and has nothing to do with &quot;server space&quot;.  If it had anything to do with server space, they wouldn&apos;t be allowing privately owned laptops to access these sites from government-owned/operated internet access points.
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2007-05-15</title>
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        I noticed the ban article and wondered the same thing, John.  They really can&apos;t figure out how to get information out without losing control, and I sympathize with the quandry.

Good bit from Dave on the PGR.  God bless &apos;em for their devotion. 
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