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  <title>Comments for General Myers&apos; Dole Lecture</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-05-03T10:05:27Z</published>
    <updated>2007-05-08T12:54:26Z</updated>
    <title>General Myers&apos; Dole Lecture</title>
    <summary> It&apos;s nice to know I could have been the Chairman. At least, that&apos;s the take-away I got from General Myer&apos;s Dole Lecture, delivered last night in Lawrence, Kansas. Aside from the chutzpah and breath-taking arrogance of that comment, what do I mean? General Myers and I share several views on the GWOT and the world in general. He believes our rhetorical stance right after 9/11 cost us more than it gained us. He believes we need to finish what we started in Iraq - but he also believes we have to tell the Iraqi government to put up or...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/C2ED96424D05A1C/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Myers delivering the Dole Lecture at the Dole Institute at Kansas University"></p>

<p>It's nice to know I could have been the Chairman.</p>

<p>At least, that's the take-away I got from General Myer's Dole Lecture, delivered last night in Lawrence, Kansas.</p>

<p>Aside from the chutzpah and breath-taking arrogance of that comment, what do I mean?</p>

<p>General Myers and I share several views on the GWOT and the world in general.  </p>

<p>He believes our rhetorical stance right after 9/11 cost us more than it gained us.</p>

<p>He believes we need to finish what we started in Iraq - but he also believes we have to tell the Iraqi government to put up or shut up - and that he believes they are, mostly, with some *huge* exceptions, and the pressure on them must be maintained to get and keep their house in order.  While he didn't say "or else" he certainly left it dangling unsaid.</p>

<p>He laments the partisan, savage tones in our politics - from both sides, especially as it relates to foreign policy.  He wishes there were more statesmen, vice men from states (my words, not his, btw).</p>

<p>And we need more patience.  As a society.</p>

<p>He then laid out what he felt (bear in mind, he's a military guy, that's the lens from which he and I, for that matter view the world) was the greatest threat facing us today.</p>

<p>1.  The greatest threat to us and our way of life (and this is the West in general) stems from violent extremists, generally of the Al-Qaeda style, and the threat *is* existential, especially in *their* minds - which means we need to take it seriously.  And it's going to be a decades-long affair, just like dealing with the Soviet Union was.</p>

<p>2.  The solution is not military, and never was.  Military is a component, sometimes larger than others, most times in support of, conjunction with, and ancillary to.</p>

<p>3.  The strategy has to be long term, committed, comprehensive, and multi-lateral.  We cannot do it alone, though we will inevitably be the engine of it.  We need a "Truman Doctrine" equivalent, that deals with the threat via information, economic development, diplomacy humanitarian aid as needed, and military support (as in helping nations build their security infrastructure, vice going in to dismantle it energetically).   And when a mole pops up, whack it.</p>

<p>The General likened our current approach (of which he was a builder) to the Whack-a-Mole game, which we play pretty well.  But to win, we need to open the box and fiddle with the algorithms that pop up the moles.  With the intent of reducing to a very low frequency the pop-ups, and to provide a warning buzzer when one is about to pop-up.  He thinks our score will improve greatly, with less wear and tear on the machine - and the hammer.</p>

<p>I did take the chance after the event to ask a question of the general, which, in fact, was asked for me by a KU student - that regarded the "boots on the ground" question.  The general would have preferred to have it asked by me, I think.  It wouldn't have had ill-informed politico-military gibberish larded into it.</p>

<p>Bottom line, on the issue of were there enough troops - General Myers answer was simple.  The Generals in charge got the troops they asked for, and in General Myer's view, the problem was in execution.  He was literally almost running out the door at that point, so I couldn't get an elaboration.  </p>

<p>Regardless, the General will always remember me.</p>

<p>Why?  Because I was the victim of an ambush!  I'm a graduate of the University of Missouri, mortal enemies of the <s>Jay</s>Chickenhawks of Kansas University.  They set me up.  They gave me a pre-weakened chair, which collapsed in the middle of the General's speech, causing my not-inconsiderable frame to thwap! loudly on the tiles, much to my everlasting mortification.</p>

<p>At least that's my story.  It's got nothing to do with the size of the shadow I cast.</p>

<p>Sigh.  Y'know, ya want to be noticed, but that just wasn't the way...</p>

<p>I *did* discover that I do a passable Orson Welles/Raymond Burr impersonation on a TV screen.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/1BA970A6EA19011/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="The Armorer on TV."></p>

<p>Scary, I know.  </p>

<p>When the <strong><a href="http://www.doleinstitute.org/">Dole Institute</a></strong> gets the video posted, I'll put up the link.  As has been the case for all the Dole Institute events I've attended, this one was well done, and well worth the effort to attend.  If you live in the region, you should take advantage of the opportunity.  </p>

<p>And the video of <strong><a href="http://merlin.cc.ku.edu:8080/asxgen/dioplb/Myers1.wmv">General Myers' giving the Dole Lecture</a></strong> is up!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2007-05-04</title>
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        Outstanding read.  As you know, I lurk, coming out only to fire a round of snark or to ask questions.

My question is this:  Based on this lecture and the analogy to whack-a-mole, how influential will this lecture be, and will the policy wonks
pay attention?  How does a lecture like this
get noticed, analysed and implemented if it is
Important?

You mentioned your visit to your state rep at the federal level.  Is this something that begins at the grassroots?

And thanks.
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    <published>2007-05-04T12:09:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2007-05-04</title>
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        John, it’s not that you are heavy it&apos;s just that they don’t make those chairs the way they used to.
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    <published>2007-05-04T07:54:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-05-03</title>
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        Dang, Dusty - if that&apos;s true, mebbe you should start charging them, seeing as how they&apos;re reducing carrying capacity for paying cargo!
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    <published>2007-05-04T03:26:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Instapilot on 2007-05-03</title>
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        We have a couple of Captains who are bigger than you...a LOT bigger.
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    <title>Comment from Bill Smith on 2007-05-03</title>
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        John,

Don&apos;t feel bad. I was photographing the Hannity radio show at a large mall, and the Mark Levin show which follows. A cute little girl went up on the temporary stage to give Mark something -- he&apos;s a sucker for kids -- and, not wanting to miss the shot -- I bounded onto the stairs of the stage which then collapsed under me with a helluva racket!

With Jack Benny-like timing, Mark said to his radio audience that I was the noisiest photographer in three states!
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    <title>Comment from jim b on 2007-05-03</title>
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        Wow I bet that was a real let down Burl, welcome to KU.
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-05-03</title>
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        SWWBO sez I have a better voice than Burl...
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    <title>Comment from Marine6 on 2007-05-03</title>
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        I believe that we are in a period in which virtually ALL politics are driven by the ever present eye of television. The numbnutted Congress critters spend every waking moment with the intention of uttering the ten second sound bite that will get them on the tube. And the more partisan or outrageous, the more likely that the idiots that control TV will show it. Instead of debating policy differences and finding an honest and workable compromise, they shout at each other (while constantly checking their polls and focus groups). They aren&apos;t interested in what&apos;s good for the nation, only in what&apos;s good for their political party and themselves.

The 24 hour news cycle must be fed, and that requires massive amounts of &quot;news&quot; which is often manufactured by the &quot;news&quot; organizations. They encourage and incite politicians to attack each other and the opposition positions. They have an endless supply of talking heads who have an opinion (always predictably partisan) on virtually everything. And there&apos;s always an inexhaustable supply of Congress critters ready, at the drop of a hat, to jump before a camera and bloviate endlessly.

And, perhaps the most dangerous thing about TV, we seem to only elect those candidates who are Hollywood attractive, and highly facil in the art of the sound bite. It is a shame that there isn&apos;t a requirement in the Consititution that politicians have to pass an IQ test, because damn few could do so. 




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        But where&apos;s the plug for &quot;Riunite-on-Ice&quot;

Oooo - That&apos;s Nice.
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    <title>Comment from Brad on 2007-05-03</title>
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        I dunno, you kinda look like an angry Burl Ives.


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    <title>Comment from NevadaDailySteve on 2007-05-03</title>
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        John,

Apologies in advance.

&quot;I will crack no chair before its time&quot; 

or, my favorite:

&quot;The case of the shattered sacrum&quot; 


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        Jeez, that was a MEAN prank!  LOL   But you DO look like Raymond Burr now .....
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