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The Democrats have had their say.

In what really was a safe vote for them. Knowing that the President is going to veto the bill allows you to vote yes for it but insulates you from any immediate consequences, especially since this is the first year of a new Congress, and things change over time.

This was political posturing. Of course, if they think it didn't just make most deployed military people anxious, well, they truly don't understand the troops. The troops are always pawns - but now they've truly been advanced deep into the other side of the board, while wondering what the support is behind them. Some are going to get cautious, even as the vote emboldens and gives aid and comfort to the enemy. This is an Army of long service professionals, but, it can't help but impact on morale.

Indeed, for some, it will improve. Everybody wants to come home. And some want to come home regardless of what happens to the mission. But most, most I suspect are annoyed, some are angry, and just about all are tired of politics and politicians. But, for most, that's just an adjustment, not a change.

The real test for Congress comes after the veto. Then we'll see their mettle, one way or another. And the people will judge in the next election. And they may well validate this action - or they will repudiate it.

Regardless, we have to find a way to fight this war. Iraq is a campaign, though we allowed it to be cast as a war, somehow different from the rest of it. The war will go on, and the democracies must find a way to fight this kind of war, where the enemy is as happy killing his own, knowing that somehow that saps our will, as he his killing us. And he'd rather kill our civilians, simply because it's easier to kill them, than it is to kill our soldiers. And since for our enemy, this *is* an existentialist war - he's going to keep coming.

A thought, for Representative Boyda, who voted *for* the supplemental - how long did it take to deal with Malaysia? How long is it taking to deal with Northern Ireland? How long has there been a fight in the Philippines? Is it the intent of Congress to just pull out and obtain "Peace with Honor?" (which was anything but) or an intent to forge a new approach? Because I haven't seen any sign of new approach, just withdrawal without putting something more substantive in it's place. Mind you, this doesn't excuse or wave away the mistakes made in the campaign to date - but it does ask - what is the substantive plan to replace the one crafted by General Petraeus? Because you just cut his timeline short, were the President to sign the bill. (A real small part of me wants him to have a temper tantrum and say "Fine, I'll bring 'em all home right now." Fortunately, *I'm* not the President, and herein demonstrate one more time my essential unfitness for the job).

This takes time. And we need a President who can make his Departments step up to the plate and do their jobs, and cooperate. We need a Congress that tends to business at home, vice being a Shadow Presidency in the foreign policy arena (Congress has it's role, certainly, still - there is that whole separation of powers thing). But it's going to be a tough row to hoe if our natural allies in this fight choose to hide behind our skirts *and* snipe at us, or just bury their heads in the sand, hoping it will all go away. The problem is deeper than just the President, Congress, Republican, Democrat. It really is civilizational.

Because while you can argue whether Congress demanded a de facto surrender, we know who *hasn't* surrendered. The enemy. It takes two to tango - it only takes one to have a war.

I'll close this post with a new Motivator.

Achievement

Only in the fullness of time will we know whether at this moment, we stand on the shoulders of giants...

or pygmies.

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I'm sure that some who voted for this bill did so out of a genuine belief that it's time to end the war and give "peace a chance". I also firmly believe that this view is incredibly naive, but I'll take these people at their word. However, I also believe that many who voted for this bill did so with a more sinister goal: They don't like America, and they don't like American sovereignty. Instead, they want to subjugate our sovereignty to a supranational, global entity like the UN. They detest the American military, and they fear that a strong, effective American military stands in their way. Recognizing that it's unfeasible to return to a draft, conscript Army which they can use to foment the same kind of anti-war demonstrations and civil unrest that they successfully generated in the late 1960's, they needed to seek a new method of sapping American will. They also recognized that they needed a way to demoralize the kind of highly motivated, intelligent, and more educated people who now willingly serve in the US military out of their love of country and homeland. What better way to do this but to pull the rug out from under these brave men and women in the middle of the job, and tell them and their families that all their sacrifices, blood, sweat,and tears has been for NOTHING? Nada? Zip? The "Democrats" whose goal this is know very well what the effect(s) of their vote will be, both in terms of demoralizing our volunteer troops, sapping American will, undermining American credibility and strength, and providing aid and comfort to our enemies. And they're betting that we're too stupid or apathetic to do anything about it. Are we?
 
Ha, with the Democrats in charge, I say we are going to be standing on the shoulders of naked Pygmies...which means the Dems might as well drop to their knees right now. I myself will elevate myself to Giant, that way we can start smashing some pygmies.
 
Because I haven't seen any sign of new approach, just withdrawal without putting something more substantive in it's place. The only thing that will be substantively replaced under the Demautocrats is the personnel makeup of the front line in the GWOT (I ain't PC -- handle it). Instead of troops, it'll be civilians -- the troops will be redeployed to protect Congress from the terrs prior to the next Homeland Whack and from the American public during and after same. The Dems will, of course, deny it with considerable expenditure of hot, gusty, greenhouse gases and then return to their primary concern -- how to lie their way out of responsibility for their actions so fundraising for their re-election campaigns doesn't suffer apocalyptic damage, too...
 
Umm, just who is that obviously very senior Sergeant of Marines in that pic? Inquiring minds want to know! Surely it's not Daly.
 
"Iraq is a campaign, though we allowed it to be cast as a war, somehow different from the rest of it." John, I've long felt that much of the problem is that the Administration has failed in the "info" battle, such as not countering the use of "The Iraq War." The outline of the future history book of this war should be: The War Against Islamo-fascism -Southwest Asian Theatre -Hindu-Kush Front -The Battle of Afghanistan -Mesopotamian Front -The Battle of Iraq ... Getting that concept across would have made the Administration's job easier, as well as counteracting the naysayers. Hmmmm. The indents aren't coming out properly in "preview," but I think you will get the idea.
 
Indeed, OP37, indeed.
 
JTG: He's no one anyone would recognize, just a retired Marine visiting Iwo Jima for the anniversary.
 
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