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  <title>Comments for Things that make me go, hmmmm.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <title>Things that make me go, hmmmm.</title>
    <summary> In less than 80 days, the turret prototype on this Humvee was taken from sketched concept to hard-core assembly. The igloo-shaped structure is designed to wrap around and over the turret gunner, thereby minimizing the sniper threat. The protective prototype?s development and testing was motivated by the death of Airman 1st Class Leebernard Chavis, who was killed by sniper fire in October 2006. First thing I thought when I saw that was,&quot;Well, it&apos;s sure better than this for moving around in sniper-infested urban areas. And it really beats this one. And while this one is an improvement over the...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/EFD9987B7335FAD/orig.jpg" border=0 title="In less than 80 days, the turret prototype on this Humvee was taken from sketched concept to hard-core assembly. The igloo-shaped structure is designed to wrap around and over the turret gunner, thereby minimizing the sniper threat. The protective prototype?s development and testing was motivated by the death of Airman 1st Class Leebernard Chavis, who was killed by sniper fire in October 2006."><br />
<blockquote>In less than 80 days, the turret prototype on this Humvee was taken from sketched concept to hard-core assembly. The igloo-shaped structure is designed to wrap around and over the turret gunner, thereby minimizing the sniper threat. The protective prototype?s development and testing was motivated by the death of Airman 1st Class Leebernard Chavis, who was killed by sniper fire in October 2006.</blockquote></p>

<p>First thing I thought when I saw that was,"Well, it's <strong><a href="http://www.fototime.com/E87D99B912EF39E/orig.jpg">sure better than this</a></strong> for moving around in sniper-infested urban areas.  And <strong><a href="http://www.fototime.com/B7FD98C8BE11174/orig.jpg">it really beats </a></strong>this one.  And while this one is an improvement over the previous two:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/C6EC2D10B916E36/orig.jpg" border=0 title="Looking through the glass of the turret on the Humvee, Spc. Joshua Stern, native of San Diego, dismount squad automatic weapon gunner, 2nd Platoon, Company B, 1-8 Combined Arms Battalion, 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Task Force Band of Brothers, prepares to move out on patrol from Forward Operating Base Paliwoda in Balad, Iraq. (U.S. Army photo by Pfc. Paul J. Harris, 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division Public Affairs Office)"><br />
...the one in the first picture above still provides a lot better overhead cover and reduces the area which a grenade can drop into the vehicle.</p>

<p>All of which is good.  And I understand that the AF is kinda new to the whole operating in sniper-infested areas thing, which is one reason they might have taken this long to adapt.</p>

<p>And they maybe chose to do it themselves, because the Army system is still cumbrous.</p>

<p>But looking at it - something looked familiar.  Like I'd seen it somewhere before.  And then I realized it - there is someone else out there with a loooong history of operating in sniper-infested urban areas, fighting COIN-style enemies.</p>

<p>And they've already been down this road.</p>

<p>With the <strong><a href="http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/Nagman.htm">Nagman</a></strong>, the <strong><a href="http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/kasman.htm">Kasman</a></strong>, the <strong><a href="http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/nagmachon/Nagmachon.html">Nagmachon</a></strong>, and even <strong><a href="http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/bulldozers/D9_D10.html">armored bulldozers</a></strong>.</p>]]>
      
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