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  <title>Comments for I went.  I saw.  I liked.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-03-10T06:00:01Z</published>
    <updated>2007-04-09T12:26:40Z</updated>
    <title>I went.  I saw.  I liked.</title>
    <summary>[Denizen Ry reviews the move 300] 300. I saw it. I liked it. It isn’t history or the only thinly veiled social commentary one expects from comics produced after 1995. It draws heavily from history for its substance but it isn’t history, not even close. It’s also done in comic book style. Everything is at the extremes---mega-pretty or mega-ugly; mega-virtuous or mega-unvirtuous. It’s a binary world. Good guys wear leather Speedos and carry bronze shields (with the inverted V, but not done in red like I am used to seeing.). Bad guys wear not-leather Speedos and lots of gold. Aside:...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>[Denizen Ry reviews the move 300]</p>

<p><em>300.</em> I saw it.  I liked it.  It isn’t history or the only thinly veiled social commentary one expects from comics produced after 1995.  </p>

<p>It draws heavily from history for its substance but it isn’t history, not even close.  It’s also done in comic book style.  Everything is at the extremes---mega-pretty or mega-ugly; mega-virtuous or mega-unvirtuous.  It’s a binary world.  Good guys wear leather Speedos and carry bronze shields (with the inverted V, but not done in red like I am used to seeing.).  Bad guys wear not-leather Speedos and lots of gold.  </p>

<p>Aside:  “Then we will fight in the shade.”  That line always brings a smile to my face, ever since I first heard it in <em>The 300</em>, the 1960s version of history.  That ranks right up there with “Nuts” as one of the gutsiest military quotes of all time.  </p>

<p>The talk of politics being inherent to the film shows some real shallow thinking; a real lacking grasp of the actual event and all of its particulars; and a refusal to see the piece for what it is in gollom’s opinion.  It’s hagiography of the Spartans, King Leonidas in particular, done in full comic book super-hero over the top coolness.  Live action anime would be a good description--- there actually were moments when I expected someone to yell ‘Hitten-misturugi style…” as they cut someone down, but that would be un-Spartan like.  </p>

<p>It’s a comic book paeon to Leonidas brought to life without a whole lot of ‘lessons’ to be taken home, not even historical ones.  Full stop.  Going past that and you’re making straw men, revealing far more about you than the film itself.</p>

<p>At the end of the day gollum liked <em>300</em>. It entertained him for two hours.  If you’re a Castle regular you’ll probably enjoy it too.<br />
--ry   </p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2007-03-11</title>
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        Heh.  Well, he&apos;s a hell of a lot funnier than me.  Thank God for that.  

I really think people need to put Critical Theory(the social one) aside once in a while.  It&apos;s not the only tool in the box for looking for meaning in things.  

What miffs me is that they seem to miss that while we&apos;re supposed to like the Spartans we aren&apos;t supposed to want to be them(what with the infanticide and general lack of civility and all).  Oh no, it&apos;s just a commercial for Emperial America. 

Leather kilt?  Ain&apos;t that a little kinky BlSp?  (shudder)


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    <published>2007-03-11T22:47:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-03-11</title>
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        My boy Matt almost always delivers &quot;da goods&quot; :)

I&apos;m just happy to share&apos;em!
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    <published>2007-03-11T14:01:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-03-10</title>
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        Bloodspite - excellent links, dude!
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    <published>2007-03-11T04:47:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2007-03-10</title>
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        Forget it.  I give up.    

Some one pass me a misslette for the Book of Speedo, wouldya.  
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    <published>2007-03-11T01:30:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2007-03-10</title>
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        The Globe &amp; Mail and their ilk still don&apos;t understand the phrase &quot;Peace Through Strength&quot;.
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    <published>2007-03-10T23:43:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-03-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[My friend <a href="http://overtaken.blogmosis.com/2007/03/friday_linkage_battle_of_therm.php" rel="nofollow">Matt took Slate to task</a> for their completely over-the-top-you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2161450/" rel="nofollow">movie review</a> they did on it.

I'm anxious to see it now between you and he, Ry.]]>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-03-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...the gospel of the freedom in the garb of the warrior.</em>

Let us pray: From the Book of Speedo, Chapter 6, Verse 34...]]>
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    <published>2007-03-10T23:03:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2007-03-10</title>
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        Oh dear, you must not be so cavalier with the putatively deeper meanings of the film. Did you really miss: &quot; ... determined to preach todays favourite sermon, the one that peddles the gospel of the freedom in the garb of the warrior. If the movie&apos;s neo-con message is as thin as a politician&apos;s excuse, ...&quot; Untimely ripped from the Globe &amp; Mail&apos;s review, which closed with &quot;... all with their shared warrior codes and their shared trails of blood, all fighting heroically to keep themselves free even when it meant keeping others enslaved. ... preferably that slick recruitment ad for our very own Spartans.

Cheers
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