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  <title>Comments for H&amp;I* Fires, 13 MAR 2007</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-03-14T03:57:19Z</published>
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    <title>H&amp;I* Fires, 13 MAR 2007</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ********************************* Cowards. -- Heh. Apparently the heirs to the Persian Empire don’t like 300 very much. -- UN says, again, that the Intl Community should do something abut Darfur. So do it already. Don’t call us. We’re busy. --ry ***************************** I see the Guardian UK has been reading the Castle (check their terminology - that&apos;s no...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</em></p>

<p>*********************************<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070312/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq"><strong>Cowards</strong></a>.<br />
--<br />
<a href="http://english.people.com.cn/200703/12/eng20070312_356565.html"><strong>Heh.</strong></a>  Apparently the heirs to the Persian Empire don’t like <em>300</em> very much.  <br />
--<br />
UN says, again, that the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/03/12/un.darfur.ap/index.html"><strong>Intl Community should do something abut Darfur</strong></a>.  So do it already.  </p>

<p>Don’t call us.  We’re busy.  <br />
--ry<br />
*****************************</p>

<p>I see the <strong><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2032236,00.html">Guardian UK has been reading the Castle</a></strong> (check their terminology - that's no coincidence!).  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*****************************</p>

<p>General Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, steps in it, with both feet.</p>

<blockquote>
In a newspaper interview Monday, Marine Gen. Peter Pace had likened homosexuality to adultery and said the military should not condone it by allowing gays to serve openly in the military.
</blockquote>

<p>There are many people who feel that way - and just as many who do not, and emphatically so.  While I can admire General Pace's candor, he's going to have some uncomfortable moments if he's still Chairman and the ban is lifted.  A <strong><a href="http://www.sldn.org/templates/congress/index.html?section=170">bill to do so has been introduced</a></strong> in the House by Representative Martin Meehan (D, MA).  I don't expect it to happen under this administration, there is little doubt in my mind that it's coming down the pike.  And when it does hit - senior leaders on the record like this will find themselves on the spot, <strong><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_gays">much as General Pace finds himself today</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Moving on to lighter topics... the Castle is due some renovation (if we don't move the Seat to another location entirely) and <strong><a href="http://www.urinal.net/kohler_arts/">the Armorer finds these facilities... entertaining</a></strong>.</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p>Is it disrespect a veteran week, and nobody told me?  Because not only did some twisted individuals <a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070312/missing_medals_070312/20070312?hub=Canada"><strong>steal an eighty-six year old U.S. Marine's medals</strong></a>, but a newly decorated Canadian returned safe home from Afghanistan only to get <a href="http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2007/03/afghanistan-syndrome-great-country-or.html"><strong>jumped by four thugs in a bar</strong></a> who yelled at him while beating his unconscious body "What kind of f---ing hero are you now?"</p>

<p>I could just spit.  <em>What is going on</em> out there?   - Damian</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://soldiersangelskc.blogspot.com/2007/03/finally-snake-saturday-video.html">VIDEO!!!!!  Soldiers' Angels Snake Saturday video!</a></strong>  Right <strong><a href="http://soldiersangelskc.blogspot.com/2007/03/finally-snake-saturday-video.html">here</a>!</strong>  Get it while it's hot!  -Kat</p>

<p>**********************************</p>

<p><strong><a href="http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-fred-thompson.html">CDR Salamander </a></strong>gets his dream, and the Navy embraces a mission that it usually does not (despite the Navy's long history of riverine ops).  <strong><a href="http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom2/FrontPage%20Stories/Navy’s%20First%20Riverine%20Squadron%20Deploys.aspx">RIVRON 1 deploys</a></strong>.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************</p>

<blockquote>
NEWS RELEASES from the United States Department of Defense

<p>No. 277-07 IMMEDIATE RELEASE<br />
March 13, 2007<br />
Media Contact: (703) 697-5131/697-5132<br />
Public/Industry(703) 428-0711</p>

<p>A Statement From Gen. Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff</p>

<p>"Yesterday, during a wide ranging interview with the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board, I was asked  if I think the current policy as codified in U.S. Code, generally referred to as "Don't Ask Don't Tell," should still hold.</p>

<p>"People have a wide range of opinions on this sensitive subject.The important thing to remember is that we have a policy in effect, and the Department of Defense has a statutory responsibility to implement that policy.</p>

<p>"I made two points in support of the policy during the interview.One, "Don't Ask Don't Tell" <br />
allows individuals to serve this nation; and two, it does not make a judgment about the morality of individual acts.</p>

<p>"In expressing my support for the current policy, I also offered some personal opinions about <br />
moral conduct.</p>

<p>"I should have focused more on my support of the policy and less on my personal moral views."<br />
</blockquote></p>

<p>Yep.  "Own goal," General.  -the Armorer</p>

<p>*********************************<br />
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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The <s>UAVs</s> (oops, can't call 'em UAVs anymore - they're now Unmanned Aerial Systems... some Colonel got his Legion of Merit for that change...), er, um UAS's we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if (Don Surber uses it this way a lot) someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone".</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-03-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>The River Rats are back, I hope the learning curve is not as steep as the PBRs and Heavies had to experience, but lets get them lads some real black berets.

Posted by Old Fat Sailorr at March 13, 2007 7:33 PM </em>
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    <published>2007-03-15T12:59:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Oldloadr on 2007-03-14</title>
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        Ledger - There are 2 answers to that question:
1.  (Least Likely) They were acquired during the Iran-Iraq war through the CIA.
2.  (Most Likely) They were reversed engineered knock-offs.  Iraq did a lot of that with everything from US MK-84s to South African 155mm artillery rounds.  I would like to see a picture of the bomb in question.  The knock-offs don&apos;t have internal plumbing for electrical fusing.  In the GP aerial bomb category; all of the ones I saw were:
1.  Locally produced knock-offs
2.  Eastern block
3.  Shipped through a 3rd party e.g. Jordan
All of the ones I saw that were identified as MK-82, 83, 84 were knock-offs lacking internal plumbing.
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2007-03-14</title>
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        <![CDATA[<i>Coalition Forces also found or captured many weapons caches to include two aircraft bombs, one 500-lb MK-82 bomb, 50 155mm artillery shells, one complete 82mm mortar system with over 100 rounds</i>...  -Centcom


How did an American bomb fall into the enemy’s hands? A dud? A bomb stolen from coalition ammo stores? Got any guesses? Can it be used for a bobby trap?

<a href="http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom2/Lists/Current%20Press%20Releases/DispForm.aspx?ID=4649&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecentcom%2Emil%2Fsites%2Fuscentcom2%2FLists%2FPress%2520Releases%2FCurrent%2520Releases%2Easpx" rel="nofollow"> see: Centcom </a>

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    <title>Comment from Old Fat Sailorr on 2007-03-13</title>
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        The River Rats are back, I hope the learning curve is not as steep as the PBRs and Heavies had to experience, but lets get them lads some real black berets.
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