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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <title>H&amp;I* Fires, 10 FEB 2007</title>
            <description>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. [Hey - trackbacks work again!] You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ************************************** This ties into questions and comments in the comments section to the judicial matters post. I find it utterly silly. Making the Nazi Defense what Ehran Watada was trying to avoid---by inference---by tossing in the guy who actually is attempting the Nazi Defense. Oh, that’s classy. ry ***************************** The Dawn...</description>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:28:26 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-02-11</title>
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                Bah :)
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            <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:38:08 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2007-02-11</title>
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                Godwin&apos;s Law? You trying to shut off discourse or something? Are you some kinda Nazi?
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            <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:52:19 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-02-10</title>
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                <![CDATA[The Nuremburg Defense (which is no defense at all, as far as the lawyers are concerned) doesn't apply to LT Watada's case.

The legality of a deployment order (or any other type) does not hinge on the particular status of the destination, but on whether the issuing office actually has the authority to issue the order. For example, Headquarters, 3ID has the authority to order LT Watada anywhere on the globe; Finance and Accounting, Fort Lewis, does not.
 
An illegal (or unlawful) order is one which contravenes the UCMJ or which would be considered a violation of the Law of Land Warfare (the <em>omnium-gatherum</em> lumping the various Hague and Geneva Protocols together). For example, calling artillery on a church -- or a synagogue, or a mosque -- in order to kill or dislodge a platoon of enemy troops is not unlawful; doing it solely in order to cow the locals <em>is</em>.

LT Watada did not refuse to obey an illegal order, he disobeyed a lawful order.

Period.
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            <pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:36:32 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from FbL on 2007-02-10</title>
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                WTG, Kat!  An eloquent and succinct response.  

I took at look at the commenters.  A quick count told me that about 20% actually stuck to the topic.    Interesting...
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            <pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:45:51 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BloodSpite on 2007-02-10</title>
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                <![CDATA[Thank Gawd for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law" rel="nofollow"><b>Godwins Law</b></a> not that anyone but us old time techie's have heard of it anymore I think

I have mixed emotions on the whole Watada thing. Not that what he did was right, because it wasn't. But rather with how it's being handled. And the argument of Double Jeopardy not applying grates my teeth, to say the least, as I have always been instructed that the Double Jeopardy basis does not and has never applies to military service members.

Times change again I guess. I'm further annoyed because 3rd BDE 2ID was my last unit assignment before my discharge at Ft Lewis. (We were part of the whole upheaval when the Army transferred us from heavy weight to medium weight. Lost our Tanks and got LAV's. I was on Temporary Assignment pending discharge) He's betrayed my boys and I want to know why.

As an officer you lead from the front, no matter what, in my book. You deploy, you make your arguments <i>while serving with your men</i> You make your stand with your chain of command <i>while serving with your men</i> By staying behind while <i>your</i> troops that <i>your responsible for</i> deploy......well I won't go on any further...my PRU is getting cranked up and I don't want that on a lovely Saturday morning. ]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:43:28 -0600</pubDate>
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