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  <title>Comments for The Whatziss Iss A *WHAT*?!?</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-01-23T07:03:21Z</published>
    <updated>2007-04-10T20:29:02Z</updated>
    <title>The Whatziss Iss A *WHAT*?!?</title>
    <summary>If you&apos;ve perused the comments on the latest Whatziss, you might think that *somebody* in that talent lineup (Maggie, Will the Sea Scout, AFSis, John) would have nailed it. Mmmmmmmmmmmm -- no. Several in the &quot;Close, but no cigar&quot; category, though. It&apos;s an anti-tank gun, but not a 37mm (?!?) or a 90mm or an 8-incher (!!!). I won&apos;t keep you in suspense (hold the applause, please-and-thank-you) any longer -- meet the T-128 75mm anti-tank gun. Right after the Korean War cranked up, US troops were tossed at the NORK advance as speed bumps. They promptly discovered that the only...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>If you've perused the comments on <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/ive_got_a_new_s.html"><strong>the latest Whatziss</strong></a>, you might think that *somebody* in that talent lineup (Maggie, Will the Sea Scout, AFSis, John) would have nailed it. </p>

<p>Mmmmmmmmmmmm -- no. Several in the "Close, but no cigar" category, though. It's an anti-tank gun, but not a 37mm (?!?) or a 90mm or an 8-incher (!!!). I won't keep you in suspense (hold the applause, please-and-thank-you) any longer -- meet the <strong>T-128</strong> 75mm anti-tank gun.<br />
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/%7B841C8360-6C63-4FD8-A997-677CF76F499E%7D/picture.JPG" border=0 alt="Left side view of the T-128, which is a dead giveaway for anybody familiar with the T-128. Which doesn’t even include the people who made the thing…"></p>

<p>Right after the Korean War cranked up, US troops were tossed at the NORK advance as speed bumps. They promptly discovered that the only effect their (very few) anti-tank weapons had on the T-34s rolling their way was to chip the paint. </p>

<p>The home front rolled into action to produce a more effective anti-tank gun</p>

<p>Disregarding the Wehrmacht's seminal <em>"Lessons Learned: The Futility of Engaging the Frontal Portion of a Farkin' T-34 with Anything Smaller than an <a href="http://www.panzermuseum.com/german-88-anti-tank-gun.html"><strong>8.8cm Dual-Purpose Gun</strong></a>" -- Like, Say, with a 7.5cm Popgun..."</em>, Rock Island Arsenal mounted a -- you guessed it, 75mm --  high-velocity gun on a 76mm recoil cradle and carriage.</p>

<p>Initial production for the testbed guns began in late 1950 and halted shortly thereafter because someone figured you could manufacture a hundred 3.5" rocket launchers, train a hundred 3.5" rocket launcher teams and purchase each team a hundred 3.5" rockets for about the same cost as the gun. </p>

<p>Based on the manufacturing date (1950) and the serial number on both the recoil mechanism's cradle<br />
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/%7B0105BC2E-393A-4898-A2C2-6A313A09B574%7D/picture.JPG" border=0 alt="Yup. Serial number two…"></p>

<p>and the gun carriage <br />
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/%7B41D33442-53E1-40B1-BC38-6EE2E2391241%7D/picture.JPG" border=0 alt="Yup. There's that serial number two again…"></p>

<p>I'd hazard the guess that the T-128 is extinct in the wild. 'Specially since neither Google nor the Rock Island Arsenal Museum even refer to it in passing. Hey! I'll betcha we'll be number one in Google for "T-128 Anti-Tank Gun" one of these days...</p>

<p>Sanger figured the gun shield east of the T-128 belonged to a field gun. Okay -- *which* particular field gun izzit?<br />
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/%7B674E3800-A68B-47F9-ADC3-6DF9EC85DB46%7D/picture.JPG" border=0 alt="*Not* an 8-incher…"></p>

<p>Yeeee-hah, the Great Rolling Whatziss Contest has commenced...<br />
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7020-comment:55579</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-01-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...you and I are going to kick a$$.</em>

Gotta love them contact sports...]]>
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    <published>2007-01-24T02:25:54Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-24T02:25:54Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7020-comment:55577</id>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-01-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maggie</name>
        <uri>http://bostonmaggie.blogspot.com</uri>
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        AFSis - If he comes up with &quot;this is my rifle...&quot; type Whatziss, you and I are going to kick a$$.
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    <published>2007-01-24T01:00:13Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-24T01:00:13Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2007-01-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
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        Actually:

M1A3 - modified towing hook (look on the sideview pic of the AT gun posted before, the trails, spades, and tow ring can be seen there)  Looks newer?

M2 - caster wheel added to the right trail, relocated trail handles, new utility box (can&apos;t tell)  It looks like there is a caster wheel attached to the right side trail (facing forward); see same pic above

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    <published>2007-01-24T00:27:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7020-comment:55574</id>
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    <title>Comment from phhhbbttttt on 2007-01-23</title>
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        <uri>http://www.grandretort.com</uri>
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        dumb &apos;ol comment filter....

phooey
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    <published>2007-01-24T00:20:39Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-24T00:20:39Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7020-comment:55572</id>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2007-01-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
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        <![CDATA[Like Pat: US 57mm AT gun

<a href="http://damagellc.com/57mm%20002.jpg" rel="nofollow"><strong>here</strong></a> & <a href="http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/archive/photos/medium_67_7415.jpg" rel="nofollow"><strong>here</strong></a>]]>
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    <published>2007-01-23T23:07:34Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-23T23:07:34Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2007-01-23</title>
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        I tried, Bill.. I really did!  One of these days, I&apos;m gonna shock and awe all of ya and get one of these suckers.
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    <published>2007-01-23T22:15:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2007-01-23</title>
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        looks like there is a wee soft spot in the armor just left of the #4 bolt there.

have you &quot;peen tested&quot; it for soft spots?
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    <published>2007-01-23T18:18:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pat on 2007-01-23</title>
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        I&apos;ll go with the U.S. version of the British 6LB gun, the 57mm M1.
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    <published>2007-01-23T17:29:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7020-comment:55542</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-01-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Again, why is it you think I would know anything about weapons? If you want me to guess a "Whatziss", you've got to think in a different direction all together.</em>

As in, "This is my rifle, this is my gun..." etcetera?
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    <published>2007-01-23T17:28:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2007-01-23</title>
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         you&apos;ve perused the comments on the latest Whatziss, you might think that *somebody* in that talent lineup (Maggie, Will the Sea Scout, AFSis, John) would have nailed it. 

Again, why is it you think I would know anything about weapons?  If you want me to guess a &quot;Whatziss&quot;, you&apos;ve got to think in a different direction all together.
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    <published>2007-01-23T16:37:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from LarryK on 2007-01-23</title>
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        Should have been able to find it on the internet. It says W.W.W. right after 1950 on the plate on the gun carriage. Too bad they didn&apos;t give the rest of the URL
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    <published>2007-01-23T14:15:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2007-01-23</title>
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        Hey - Me likes to tease The Chief just a leeeetle!
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    <published>2007-01-23T13:36:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2007-01-23</title>
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        Oh, dandy. I&apos;ve got dialup and you send me to the same &quot;Hi, We&apos;ve Got a Jillion Graphics and Links, So Wait for an Hour While We Load!&quot; that Boq always teases me with.

Besides, I already *have* that video. Better quality, too... 
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    <published>2007-01-23T12:54:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-23</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Of course - that ID also depends on...

M1A1 - US wheels and tires (check) 
M1A2 - improved traverse mechanism, allowing free traverse (can&apos;t tell)
M1A3 - modified towing hook (can&apos;t tell)
M2 - caster wheel added to the right trail, relocated trail handles, new utility box (can&apos;t tell)
M2A1 - improved elevation gear (can&apos;t tell)
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    <published>2007-01-23T12:08:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Most recently made famous... <strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFvGwTizjtU" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong>.

[I've left my answers unpublished for the nonce.  Didn't want to give it away right off the bat!]]]>
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    <published>2007-01-23T12:00:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-23</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Looks to me like the Brit 6 Pounder QF, in US service referred to as the 57mm Anti-tank Gun, M1.

Can&apos;t tell if that&apos;s Brit-made or US.
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    <published>2007-01-23T11:48:57Z</published>
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