We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:44:44 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification I've been a Red Ensign blogger ever since the Flea invented the concept - that of people who visualized a, well, more robust Canada. Like the Canada that has stepped up in Afghanistan. Even though they smell funny, I really *like* Canadians. The hosers. They're a lot like us, only different. And they spell badly. Those extra vowels, doncha know. I'm just curious though - of all the Red Ensign Bloggers - how many have actually *flown* the Red Ensign? The Red Ensign being Canada's flag prior to adoption of the Maple Leaf flag. Regardless - yesterday, appropriately during the... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:53:34 -0600 Speaking as a Brit, I must say that our Tonys' not that bad (maybe apart from the strange habit of believing everything anybody tells him) but things could be a lot worse. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55506 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55506 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:58:23 -0600 Thank you for the honour, sir. (Yes, we do love our extra vowels:) Would that more Canadians were as supportive of Canada as you are. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55479 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55479 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:47:28 -0600 I thank you for this post. I love the Red Ensign. Our flag should never have been changed. God Save the Queen of Canada Roy, a loyal Canadian http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55476 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55476 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:22:26 -0600 ahh now i understand. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55474 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55474 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:49:04 -0600 Well done, sir! You sure did put a smile on my face this morning, seeing the Red Ensign snapping and crackling in a snowy northern wind. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55473 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55473 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:48:40 -0600 Trias - I understand. The point about flying the Red Ensign for Australia is the same as flying it for Canada - hearkens to an earlier, more robust time (with the attendant bad side, to, I understand). It deliberately looks back, as a way of looking forward. Or for a vision of going forward, anyway. Not the badness of it - the goodness. And, in the case of the Canadian Red Ensign bloggers - it was a conscious attempt to pre-empt troglodytes co-opting the flag to actively promote the badness of the old ways. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55470 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55470 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:01:31 -0600 John to clarify. The Aussie Red (civil) Ensign does exist. It *used* to be the flag flown by civilians long long ago. Now, however the red ensign is used for non military navy and the flag civilians know and use is blue. I had no idea about the red ensign till you linked it. What a stupid idea to ban the flag. The real problem is the tards using the aussie flag to justify their behaviour. Target them instead. Of course that's really a policing problem so i suppose the organisers are stuck for a solution. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55453 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55453 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:21:28 -0600 these t-shirts I've just run up for the event where the organisers want to ban the Oz flag claiming the flag is essentially "gang colours".]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55434 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55434 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:25:25 -0600 As noted in the AusFlag link I provided Trias. My Kiwi flag, Murray, will be blue. Since the Ozzies specifically allow for the Red for civilians, and I have yet to take the Queen's shilling, I shall stick with Red for the Ozzies. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55430 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55430 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:37:05 -0600 We now call her the Killer Queen. You're on the wrong track with your ensigns btw. NZ & Oz use the Blue Ensign in the same way that Canada used to use their red. The red ensign is merchant navy only. Gray funnel line are white and nations (derived from govt depts) are blue. These were the allocations when the three Royal Division were reorganised. The RN kept the white as Nelson was an admiral of the white. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55410 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55410 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:51:35 -0600 Well there you go you learn something every day. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55394 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55394 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:47:10 -0600 Australian Red Ensign.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55392 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55392 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:37:10 -0600 Trias - yes, they do. The Red Ensign is also the flag commercial shipping fly (unlike the White Ensign, which is the naval battle flag). The Aussie Red Ensign looks just like your regular flag - except instead of a blue field, it's red. I've got one inbound, that flew during the second world war. I've not yet found a Kiwi Red Ensign, having to content myself while I search for the standard Kiwi flag. Helen - heh. Don't get Murray started... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55391 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55391 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:35:59 -0600 What a beauty. I walk with chest pushed out a little further today. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55389 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55389 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:09:29 -0600 I should perhaps post a photo of flying the wartime Canadian Red Ensign out the window of my cousin's Cotswolds cottage the weekend of the village fete. The village, and England, were celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of VE Day. Fantastic to see it flying over the Castle. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55388 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55388 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:06:26 -0600 Does Australia have a red ensign flag? Tony is probably a genius compared to the Helen one the Kiwis have to put up with. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55379 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/red_ensign_blog.html#comment-55379 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:32:11 -0600