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  <title>Comments for Red Ensign Blogging.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-01-21T11:53:34Z</published>
    <updated>2007-04-10T15:47:09Z</updated>
    <title>Red Ensign Blogging.</title>
    <summary>I&apos;ve been a Red Ensign blogger ever since the Flea invented the concept - that of people who visualized a, well, more robust Canada. Like the Canada that has stepped up in Afghanistan. Even though they smell funny, I really *like* Canadians. The hosers. They&apos;re a lot like us, only different. And they spell badly. Those extra vowels, doncha know. I&apos;m just curious though - of all the Red Ensign Bloggers - how many have actually *flown* the Red Ensign? The Red Ensign being Canada&apos;s flag prior to adoption of the Maple Leaf flag. Regardless - yesterday, appropriately during the...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/002405.html">I've been a Red Ensign blogger ever since the Flea invented the concept</a> - that of people who visualized a, well, more robust Canada.  Like the Canada that has stepped up in Afghanistan.  Even though they smell funny, I really *like* Canadians.  The hosers.  They're a lot like us, only different. And they spell badly.  Those extra vowels, doncha know.</p>

<p>I'm just curious though - of all the Red Ensign Bloggers - how many have actually *flown* the Red Ensign?</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/8084C2AA2782C60/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="The Castle Flies the Red Ensign of Canada."></p>

<p>The Red Ensign being Canada's flag prior to adoption of the Maple Leaf flag.</p>

<p>Regardless -  yesterday, appropriately during the snow storm - the Castle hoist the Red Ensign.</p>

<p>Just because we could.  We're still trying to score a nice Australian and New Zealand Red Ensign, which, like the Canadian version (well, except for yesterday, where we did it just because we wanted to) it will fly from the Castle staff on their respective national days..</p>

<p>'Cuz we like the Anglosphere.  Without apology.  Even if Tony has turned out to be a bit of a twit.</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7010-comment:55506</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ian Davis on 2007-01-22</title>
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        <name>Ian Davis</name>
        
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        Speaking as a Brit, I must say that our Tonys&apos; not that bad (maybe apart from the strange habit of believing everything anybody tells him) but things could be a lot worse.  

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    <published>2007-01-23T01:58:23Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-23T01:58:23Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7010-comment:55479</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jon Neufeld on 2007-01-22</title>
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        <name>Jon Neufeld</name>
        
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        Thank you for the honour, sir.  (Yes, we do love our extra vowels:)  Would that more Canadians were as supportive of Canada as you are.


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    <published>2007-01-22T17:47:28Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-22T17:47:28Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7010-comment:55476</id>
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    <title>Comment from Roy Eappen on 2007-01-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Roy Eappen</name>
        <uri>http://torydrroy.blogspot.com</uri>
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         I thank you for this post. I love the Red Ensign. Our flag should never have been changed.
God Save the Queen of Canada
Roy, a loyal Canadian
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    <published>2007-01-22T17:22:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2007://1.7010-comment:55474</id>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-01-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trias</name>
        <uri>http://www.insanity.observationdeck.org/</uri>
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        ahh now i understand.
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    <published>2007-01-22T15:49:04Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-22T15:49:04Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Damian on 2007-01-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Damian</name>
        <uri>http://www.babblingbrooks.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Well done, sir!  You sure did put a smile on my face this morning, seeing the Red Ensign snapping and crackling in a snowy northern wind.
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    <published>2007-01-22T15:48:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Trias - I understand.  The point about flying the Red Ensign for Australia is the same as flying it for Canada - hearkens to an earlier, more robust time (with the attendant bad side, to, I understand).

It deliberately looks back, as a way of looking forward.  Or for a vision of going forward, anyway.  Not the badness of it - the goodness.

And, in the case of the Canadian Red Ensign bloggers - it was a conscious attempt to pre-empt troglodytes co-opting the flag to actively promote the badness of the old ways.
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    <published>2007-01-22T15:01:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-01-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trias</name>
        <uri>http://www.insanity.observationdeck.org/</uri>
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        John to clarify.

The Aussie Red (civil) Ensign does exist.  It *used* to be the flag flown by civilians long long ago.  Now, however the red ensign is used for non military navy and the flag civilians know and use is blue.

I had no idea about the red ensign till you linked it.

What a stupid idea to ban the flag.  The real problem is the tards using the aussie flag to justify their behaviour.  Target them instead.  Of course that&apos;s really a policing problem so i suppose the organisers are stuck for a solution.
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    <published>2007-01-22T11:21:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Murray on 2007-01-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Murray</name>
        <uri>http://hittingmetalwithahammer.wordpress.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Dude its merchant. Even most Aussies wouldn't know what it is.

Blue. 

Say it with me, b l oooee.

As in all <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/therightplace/2426337" rel="nofollow">these t-shirts</a> I've just run up for the event where the organisers want to <a href="http://hittingmetalwithahammer.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/people-of-austalia-your-attention-please/" rel="nofollow">ban the Oz flag</a> claiming the flag is essentially "gang colours".]]>
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    <published>2007-01-22T02:25:25Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-22T02:25:25Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        As noted in the AusFlag link I provided Trias.

My Kiwi flag, Murray, will be blue.

Since the Ozzies specifically allow for the Red for civilians, and I have yet to take the Queen&apos;s shilling, I shall stick with Red for the Ozzies.


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    <published>2007-01-22T01:37:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Murray on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>Murray</name>
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        We now call her the Killer Queen.

You&apos;re on the wrong track with your ensigns btw. NZ &amp; Oz use the Blue Ensign in the same way that Canada used to use their red.

The red ensign is merchant navy only. Gray funnel line are white and nations (derived from govt depts) are blue. These were the allocations when the three Royal Division were reorganised. The RN kept the white as Nelson was an admiral of the white.  
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    <published>2007-01-21T23:51:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>Trias</name>
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        Well there you go you learn something every day.
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    <published>2007-01-21T20:47:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Trias - here you go, the <strong><a href="http://www.ausflag.com.au/flags/ensign.html" rel="nofollow">Australian Red Ensign</a></strong>.]]>
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    <published>2007-01-21T20:37:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Trias - yes, they do.  The Red Ensign is also the flag commercial shipping fly (unlike the White Ensign, which is the naval battle flag).

The Aussie Red Ensign looks just like your regular flag - except instead of a blue field, it&apos;s red.

I&apos;ve got one inbound, that flew during the second world war.

I&apos;ve not yet found a Kiwi Red Ensign, having to content myself while I search for the standard Kiwi flag.

Helen - heh.  Don&apos;t get Murray started...
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    <published>2007-01-21T20:35:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Temujin on 2007-01-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Temujin</name>
        <uri>http://www.drizwald.blogspot.com</uri>
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        What a beauty.

I walk with chest pushed out a little further today.
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    <published>2007-01-21T20:09:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Flea on 2007-01-21</title>
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        <name>Flea</name>
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        I should perhaps post a photo of flying the wartime Canadian Red Ensign out the window of my cousin&apos;s Cotswolds cottage the weekend of the village fete. The village, and England, were celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of VE Day.

Fantastic to see it flying over the Castle.
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    <published>2007-01-21T20:06:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2007-01-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trias</name>
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        Does Australia have a red ensign flag?

Tony is probably a genius compared to the Helen one the Kiwis have to put up with.
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    <published>2007-01-21T15:32:11Z</published>
    <updated>2007-01-21T15:32:11Z</updated>
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