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H&I* Fires, 14 JAN 2007

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"Madam Secretary, please," Boxer said. "I know you feel terrible about it. That's not the point. I was making the case as to who pays the price for your decisions."

You might want to be careful with that rhetorical blade there, Senator. It cuts both ways, seeing that 'keeping Saddam Hussein contained' had an annual toll of 50k and going to places like the Sudan is likely to cost lives resulting in heartache and pain in the families of the military community, like Ginsu knives of old. Who does pay for your decisions, Senator? (I can do that as I'm still, technically, based on my permanent mailing address being in Southern California, a constituent of hers.)

Wretchard over at Belmont has something interesting about the IEDs being supplied by Iran. Well, TROPHY is the answer to that too, innit' Keith Olberman?

Just a reminder of what problems come with the three state break up of Iraq ideas pushed by some. Turkey doesn't like how the Kurds turn a blind eye to the PKK. Just something to think about. .

The Guardian(UK) on how the insurgency has morphed over time. Now there's room to talk to some who've become tired of the violence and overcome their reflexive US hatred. The rest, the bloody minded rest, well, there's a solution to them too---a damned expensive one.
ry

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Jules Crittenden as a great round-up of Iraq news and posts (scroll down).

And the NY Times is again delving into government secrets that are being used to track down terrorists. I don't know enough to make a judgment yet, but it sounds a lot like the terrorist surveillance story. Crittenden has some pointed comments on the subject.

And finally, Lex points us to a new milblogger worthy of a bookmark--Acute Politics:

Before now poetry has taken notice
Of wars, and what are wars but politics
Transformed from chronic to acute and bloody?
from "Build Soil," Robert Frost

He's been blogging since September but doesn't have a ton of posts, so go ahead and start at the beginning. - FbL

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We've upgraded the back office, and made some tweaks and improvements in the reception area, too. So - as you poke and prod and find things that don't work quite right (for example, at the moment, it doesn't remember my name data in the comment box) leave a comment or drop us an email and I'll have the gnome work on it. Thanks! -the Armorer

[Update: I know there are some Firefox issues. Comments *are* working, they are going into moderation, and have to be approved. How fast they show up depends on how often I'm checking my email.]

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Based on the standards of AP and al-Reuters journalism, I have fixed the picture from yesterday's post to better tell tell a better story. Funnier, anyway. That isn't wrong. If it was wrong, they wouldn't do it.

You must *also* learn how to deal with the air/ground interface and it's immediate environs

-the Armorer

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*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.

Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.

Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*

The UAVs we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.

I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to. It's also an open trackback, so if (Don Surber uses it this way a lot) someone has a post they're proud of, but it really isn't either Castle kind of stuff, or topical to a particular post, I've basically given blanket permission to use that post for that purpose. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone".

11 Comments

Re: upgrade When I enter a comment it takes the usual long time to process, but when the box finally "redraws" itself, the comment is not visible (even with a refresh). However, a number of minutes later it shows up.
 
Actually, the comment is going into moderation. It showed up as fast as it did because I happened to be puttering around in the back and approved the comment.
 
Hey FbL, your link to acute politics has an html=scrambling extra "l" after the dot.com domain, thus ".coml" Thought you'd like to know. Go Bolts.
   
I see the family of blogs to which you belong (I found you on ASP) have been, true to character, making hay over Barbara Boxer's comment. I saw the actual exchange the first time and again another time (C-Span is great reality TV), and I must say, Boxer's did not suggest Rice is not "qualified" but rather compared Boxer's own small price with Rice's. It was the right wing media which distorted the comment which in actuality, stressed the fact that only Military families are paying the price. I would think that an honest person would see her comments as sympathetic to the troops. For your convenience, here's what Boxer actually said: “The issue is who pays the price? I’m not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You’re not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with an immediate family. So who pays the price? The American military and their families.” Nice blog by the way.
 
It looks like kites are the gateway drug to light aircraft for trees. Never mind Jonah's preoccupation with the volcano menace--trees are everywhere!
 
Thank God for heros like Boxer and Pelosi. Is anyone watching the chimpus bafoon on 60 minutes right now? Boxer and Pelosi = reasoned oversight of a president going mad in mind.
 
C'mon, Nephi, surely you can muster something more substantive than that? If you're going to be rude and break my rules (no gratuitous insults) at least endeavor to spell them correctly. That would be "buffoon". I'm not sure what the equivalent of "chimpus" is, so we'll let that stand untouched. I think the President no more mad than Boxer and Pelosi.
 
Gee, thanks Cliff! But not to worry, my mom paid the cable bill and I have CSpan here in the basement. Regardless of what you feel about the war, how are Senator Boxer's statements relevent? Do you imagine for one moment she would say the same to SecDef Gates? Her statements were out of line, period. It was all for show. Personal lives are just that....personal lives. But, whatever, that hearing was a joke anyway with Hagel shouting over Dr. Rice.
 
In my defence, I took that from the SF Gate, and, though and there's a link to that story---click on the words. BUt my larger point seems lost on you, Cliff. Deciding not to go costs lives. Deciding to go costs lives. LEaving Vietnam cost between half and 2 million civilians their lives---lives which would've been lost even if we didn't go in the first place(look at the purgues of Hue). Not invading DPRK has cost that nation an unknowable number. Going to Bosnia cost people their lives, and going late cost lives too. Who pays for your decisions? For someone who is so into the suffering of others this FACT seems rather lost on Sen. Boxer, and you. So who pays for your decisions, Cliff? It likely isn't you. Of course, if you got off the angry pills youd've seen that where I wrote this: "seeing that 'keeping Saddam Hussein contained' had an annual toll of 50k and going to places like the Sudan is likely to cost lives resulting in heartache and pain in the families of the military community". But apparently, defending grandstanders who love to use someone else's pain for their dometic politics trumps, desu neh?
 
And the 'right wing media'? Um, dude, the SF Gate can hardly be called 'right wing' can it? Simply put, Boxer should be careful what rhetoric she uses. She's placed herself, by herself, in a bad spot by trading off the suffering of others for personal gain. That may come back to haunt her. Say, a massive Free Tibet counter-protest at her next political rally. Or, say, someone from Darfur showing up on 60 Minutes demanding to know why Sen Boxer thinks one American life is worth more than 10K Sudanese? You don't play with people's suffering like this. It leaves you in a bad spot. It's cheap, cruel, and inherently the politics of melodrama and personal destruction. Dirty pool.
 
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