We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:06:07 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite. [Admittedly, I'm fibbing. Trackbacks are still broken] You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... ************************ I have it on good authority that Darryl Worley's new song, "I Just Came Back From War", tells it like it is. Go watch and listen to the video for yourself. Then go read the thoughts of America's Son. -Barb / Proud blogmom ******************** Doing a little poking... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:55:55 -0600 No hassles, Sean. It's been a while since I saw the brief on C-SPAN(and the wife refuses to allow me to buy the DVD of it.). I must've totally forgotten he said that. It happens. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54993 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54993 Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:34:08 -0600 sorry, Ry. i guess that was kind of a driveby comment ;-) the 50ks are something Tom was has said in the brief as long ago as 2 years ago. he has not reiterated this recently. if i had a point, it was along the lines of 'this whole thing would have gone down better with a little more coalition-building on the front end a la the 50ks. nowadays i think Tom would say Russia and China still matter b/c what we should really be trying to do is transform the whole region, and they figure in that way, overall-security-wise. further, they are, at a minimum, important trade partners (China re: oil especially) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54976 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54976 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:20:07 -0600 Of course I'm interested in knowing what was found. But it's going to be released like the Zimmerman telegram(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram) and such, if at all. I'd give up my left arm to see what was actually found there. But I'm not going to see it. Not before it gets world wide release to show Iranian intransangience. Placement of the Patriot(are they PAC-3?, I sure hope so) batteries is a tactical thing. They aren't going to Japan or Korea, if that's what you're thinking. we've sent some to those places or sold them some already(the ones with the anti-ballistic upgrades to software and such). These are obviously headed for Iraq and critical points in the ME to counter possible BM attack. Beyond that's purely on need to know in my opinion(and I, though I'd like to, don't need to). Don't want to make things easier for the enemy you know. Loose lips sinking ships and all. John, you've ruined me. Now Maggs surrenders to curiousity like a 12 year old better than I do. Punk. Stop dragging me into adulthood. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54971 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54971 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:52:12 -0600 Ry- I thought they were interesting points to discuss. Aren't you interested in knowing what we were looking for or where those batteries will be placed? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54968 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54968 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:39:32 -0600 Um, Maggs, you're kidding right? MajMike is on the money. A smoking gun linking Iran to funding and fueling some of the insurgentcy in Iraq. The Patriot systems? Iran has a fair number of missiles they could fire off if they get a wild hair(the Shahab series for instance). My not be nuclear, chem and bio warheads have dispersal issues, but they are a problem. We're taking a stance that Iran is not going to like and were anticipating one of their major counters. Smart. "Tom says what we needed first was a 50k each Russian, Chinese and Indian peacekeepers in Iraq" I may have missed that in the post Sean. Even so, I'm not sure it's such a smart move. If, and I'm only saying if, part of the problem is 'outsiders' bringing in other outsiders who have issues with Moslems and have histories of killing them(Russia obviously with Chechneya, China with the Ughir(I can't spell for crap), and India with the indigenous and Pakistani Moslems) I can't see that as not exacerbating the problem. The mass effect would be nice(150K more troops? Hell yeah), but not sure it solves other issues. I also have trouble with the rather sticky details of how such a coalition would decide how to proceed. We've very different ideas of what's necessary. Tom didn't go into that, it being a blog post and not a dissertation, but I think it potentially an issue. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54963 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54963 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:51:35 -0600 thanks for the link. Tom says what we needed first was a 50k each Russian, Chinese and Indian peacekeepers in Iraq, nonOccidental, so when insurgents looked across the line they saw three cultures with a demonstrated record of killing Muslims when the situation requires it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54961 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54961 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:30:20 -0600 I read the followup on the polls and it really struck me that this is just business as usual for the MSM. What has to happen to get the White House to respond to this kind of made-up statistics and if they do decide to where are they going to respond. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54959 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54959 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:19:18 -0600 I completely agree about Durbin. I was so upset. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54955 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54955 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:20:21 -0600 what are we looking for? fingerprints. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54934 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54934 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:52:47 -0600 same news (MNF storming the Iranian "liason" compound in Irbil). I defer to the Princess... ;)]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54929 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2007/01/hi_fires_11_jan.html#comment-54929 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:11:26 -0600