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  <title>Comments for Here&apos;s a thought...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-01-28T15:42:08Z</published>
    <updated>2007-04-10T15:47:05Z</updated>
    <title>Here&apos;s a thought...</title>
    <summary> Mark Steyn might agree. Building on Fuzzybear Lioness&apos; link in the comments: &quot;It&apos;s not the American people or the U.S. Congress who are emboldening the enemy,&quot; said Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, a White House hopeful in 2008. &quot;It&apos;s the failed policy of this president — going to war without a strategy, going to war prematurely.&quot; So, going to war was still a Good Thing, then Senator? We only opened the campaign &quot;prematurely&quot;? If so - how about the Democrats proposing a plan to *win* it then? Of course, it&apos;s easy to carp. Talking heads (myself included) have that bit...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<center><img src="http://www.fototime.com/DC6B2159A5EBA4B/orig.jpg" border=0 title="Of course nothing is this simple.  But, still... geez, ya wonder who's side they're on sometimes."></center>

<p><strong><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/231882,CST-EDT-steyn28.article">Mark Steyn</a></strong> might agree.</p>

<p>Building on Fuzzybear Lioness' link in the comments:</p>

<blockquote>"It's not the American people or the U.S. Congress who are emboldening the enemy," said Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, a White House hopeful in 2008. "It's the failed policy of this president — going to war without a strategy, going to war prematurely."</blockquote>

<p><strong><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070128/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq">So, going to war was still a Good Thing</a></strong>, then Senator?  We only opened the campaign "prematurely"? If so - how about the Democrats proposing a plan to *win* it then?  Of course, it's easy to carp.  Talking heads (myself included) have that bit easy, don't we?</p>

<p>No doubt the campaign (it's *not* a war, it's a component of an overall war) has not gone as envisioned, and that the vision, while broad and expansive, was not undergirt well.</p>

<p>But, since you apparently approve of going to war, just not how - how do you propose to retrieve the situation?  We already know about the effective abandonment plans.  Are there others, that might lead to a more satisfying solution that is in the national interest?</p>

<p>Or, if full withdrawal is the only option left - and that's all you've got - then say so.</p>

<p>Don't be the mealy-mouthed teller of lies and half-truths you accuse the President of being.</p>

<p>C'mon.  Stand and deliver.  You keep saying that's what we want.  When are we going to see affirmative, and accountable, actions to match the rhetoric?</p>

<p>As I said of Prime Minister Maliki - <em>Actions, sir.  Actions</em>.  </p>

<p>Let's get some proposals on the table that aren't just rhetorical gambits and let's vote on 'em.</p>

<p>Y'all got the brass ring.  Do something with it besides... pose.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2007-01-29</title>
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        I&apos;m looking forward to Biden&apos;s next spate of made up family history...  I&apos;m amazed that he seems to think everyone&apos;s forgotten he was lying about his past to try to get elected.  Well, maybe they have, he keeps getting elected, don&apos;t he....

Screw him too.  I figure it&apos;s gonna be Hilary and Obama (he&apos;s got to be going for the face time or the VP slot, both work for a young guy), but to be honest, I don&apos;t think that combo will work.   I don&apos;t think Hilary has the chance a lot of people think she does &apos;cause she&apos;s not willing to dump her philandering perjured hubby, and lots of folks like me would vote for almost anyone before they&apos;d see him back in the Whitehouse, no matter who the servants work for.

I&apos;d like to see Newt Gingrich and Rice run together, they just need to call it first if they are going to because that would just kill the demo chance of playing that race card...  And man wouldn&apos;t Gingrich and Rice be one tough pair to deal with... I think that would make for some interesting politics...
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    <published>2007-01-29T09:05:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Heartless Libertarian on 2007-01-28</title>
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        <name>Heartless Libertarian</name>
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        Biden&apos;s problem...which also afflicts Hillary, Obama, and McCain...is that they&apos;re trying to look Presidential while still being Senators.

Personally, I think the two objectives cause enough of a conflict of interest that it should be forbidden.

New Amendment:  &quot;No person, while holding any elective office, nor any office of public trust under the United States, shall be allowed to run for the office of President of the United States.&quot;

You want to be President?  Fine and dandy.  But you&apos;ll have to give up your cushy government job to do it.
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    <published>2007-01-28T17:30:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2007-01-28</title>
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        Yeah, that probably wasn&apos;t the most coherent comment I&apos;ve ever made here, but like I said in comments on another post: my lack of posting on my blog recently is a public service, haha!
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    <published>2007-01-28T16:47:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2007-01-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[Oh, and here's some more great thinking from that side of the Aisle.  Biden says it's not undermining military strategy and using the troops as political pawns/props that emboldens the enemy; it's "<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070128/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq" rel="nofollow"><strong>failed strategy</strong></a>" that does that.  Good to know that the yet-to-be-implemented strategy has already failed.  Maybe he's just making sure we don't attempt anything new because if it doesn't work right our enemies might be emboldened--'cause you know if we do nothing then they just relax and start being nice to us.  I'm just so glad he's on our side... *barf*]]>
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    <published>2007-01-28T16:45:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2007-01-28</title>
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        What Carrie said.  :)  Nice!
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    <published>2007-01-28T16:08:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Carrie on 2007-01-28</title>
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        I love it almost as much as the &quot;have a nice hot cup of...&quot;
Considering all of the weekend&apos;s activities, this is a tonic.
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    <published>2007-01-28T15:55:07Z</published>
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