We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:47:03 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Nope, not clothes. Nor the Terran Overlord Government, either. In the early part of WWII, most British tanks sucked for one reason or another. A part was the armament, pretty punky in comparison to the people they were fighting, and their engines weren't the best (not for nothing is a brit mechanic called a "fitter", and they made their tracks out of softer steel, so they wore out quickly. In other words, they didn't design very good tanks. They had two major types of tanks - "cruiser" tanks, which were the breakthrough follow-up - cavalry on tracks, which were fast... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:48:11 -0600 Fodder - but the quickest way to learn to swim is by swimming with these sharks. At least in these waters. They'll never bite off more than will grow back... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52539 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52539 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:20:57 -0600 "Powered by twin diesel-electric generators this is the ultimate expression of World War One tank..." ...just in time for the second world war. You know, I'm still amazed that we aren't speaking German. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52538 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52538 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:02:20 -0600 Snicker ... Cheers http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52532 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52532 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:45:29 -0600 Although I am obviously in over my head with the gang at this site, I gotta say that is one of the dumbest armor ideas I've ever seen built. I won't bore you experts with my civilian opinions but the more I learn the more amazed I am the Brits hung on until us Yanks got involved for real. Thank goodness my father served in American fleet boats out of Pearl, at least they had a chance and he survived it (stop with the Civil War jokes). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52529 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52529 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:10:17 -0600 Like I was gonna get you on something like that... sheesh. And *now* I have to wait a few months before I can use [deleted]. And you're disqualified when I do run with it! Pllllpppppttttt! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52523 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52523 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:36:25 -0600 I was going to hazard a guess at the TOG series, but I didn't think that the prototypes had survived... I was willing to venture a guess that it was a Mk1 with a Hollywood turret (the barrels coming out of the sponsons didn't look small enough to be the "female" version... Sneaky fellow, Sir John... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52522 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52522 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:28:23 -0600 That's because someone did look up The Old Gang, to confirm that was not the correct answer. Neither was the "[deleted cuz I'm gonna use that sometime]" ... Cheers http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52521 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52521 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:21:34 -0600 oh man, see what i miss when i have a drill weekend! shoot, now i gotta go and scroll back to see all the panzer yummieness. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52502 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/11/togs.html#comment-52502 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:44:15 -0600