We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:50:06 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification How many of these can you remember, old guys? Did I mention Auld Guys? Like, oh, 1SG Keith? Who is... 50 this day? No, I didn't mention that. Nope. Not me... * Your name is on the back of a Unit Crest in the Graf O-Club. Yep * You inventoried nukes at a NATO site and understood the 1 meter rule when you found out they really were warm to the touch. Big Check! * You know the Klosterbrauerei Kreuzberg beer really had a two beer limit. uh-huh * You know what GDP means and still remember where yours was... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:38:18 -0600 mmm, Kruezberg, Best beer in the world! Two other things about Kruezberg I will never forget, 1. Coming down the hill in a Jeep + trailer with two kegs and limited brakes. (the LT just had to see how deep a fording the jeep could actaully do the day before.) The remains of a 280Z that two LT's did not make a corner in coming down the same road. A tragic loss. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-52103 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-52103 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:41:36 -0600 I was permanent party at Graf. I had no one to blame for that honor other than myself since I had joined up for "Europe unassigned." Really, it was kind of nice duty as opposed to being on the training ranges for a short time like the temporaries were. Got pulled to go to VN and found that several of the guys from Graf were already "there" or arrived shortly after I did. Woody http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51998 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51998 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:02:15 -0600 At the Stadtklinik? Only one of the best private hospitals in Germany. And how kewl is that, one born during the Cold War and one after reunification? Ry, I tried to get your spoon back but after your cheerio appetizer, I will commence with a full Southern breakfast: Grits cooked in milk (the real deal and not some instant slop), eggs cooked your way, sugar cured ham and biscuits with butter and your choice of honey or jam. Beverages are herbal tea, cranberry juice (cold and flu season is starting) or citrus sparkler. And last night I was up til the wee hours looking at sites that had pics of McPheeter's Barracks. Not many. Or of Downs Barracks. And now, the CLUs, having done their schoolwork and chores are watching Hogan's Heroes. Again. Lunch is baked potato soup, grilled ham and cheese sandwiches and oranges. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51979 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51979 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:34:54 -0600 Leibe Cricket, Both of my kids were born in that hospital, the first when it was in West Germany, the second when it was just plain Germany. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51975 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51975 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:07:15 -0600 Sigh. Takes the spoon, gives Ry some Cheerios. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51969 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51969 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:16:18 -0600 I MEANT OPs Romeo and India. Sheesh. I have to do a Freudian slip. I even went to visit the Engineer at both of them. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51968 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51968 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:22:05 -0600 I love 'em too. We make them on Fasching, which coinkydinkally enough is Veteran's Day. Since the Engineer is also PA Dutch (which meant he could verstehen der Duetscher better than I) we also make Fastnachts. We sprinkle ours with a bit of powdered sugar mixed with cinnamon. Then they are served with the Beverage of Choice: Mexican hot chocolate or milk. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51967 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51967 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:14:52 -0600 Wohooo! Apple fritters literally are my favorite donut of all time. Except when they have a super thick sugar coating. Then they're just a headache waiting to happen once they're the tummy. (resumes banging spoon on high chair) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51966 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51966 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:06:21 -0600 Well, iffen yer a spouse and had a baby in Fulda, chances are yer offspring got a Border Baby Certificate from either the 3/11th ACR commander in Bad Hersfeld or the CO in Fulda... *gives ry his spoon back and a glass of milk with an apple fritter* http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51964 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51964 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:46:47 -0600 http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/VC_Recipients/tilston.htm Cheers]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51959 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51959 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:19:47 -0600 *ahem* Don't we get points for correctelectally identifying which was which? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51958 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51958 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:46:54 -0600 ...and (removes spoon) if we're going to be *totally* pedantic... Bundesrepublik Deutschland. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51957 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51957 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:52:29 -0600 Sigh. Spelling, Ry, spelling. Deutsche Demokratische Republik. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51956 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51956 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:48:09 -0600 Happy Birthday! I hear 50 is the new 30! ;-) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51955 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51955 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:50:44 -0600 (bangs spoon on highchair) "ennybuddy remember what FRG and GDR stood for?" Federal Republic of Germany and German Democratic Republic(Deutche Democratishe Republic). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51952 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51952 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:21:38 -0600 FRG-Federal Republic of Germany (West) GDR-German Democratic Republic (East) Duty trains to Berlin. Calling S-2 to see if it was 'safe' to stick yer nose out the front door At least forty thousand stickers all over your POV IDing you as US military, with diplomatic plates. USAEUR-issued driver's licenses. I was given the manual to study and passed the test the next day. Getting permission to live off post and being command sponsored. NEO briefings... Posters of Warsaw Pact Uniforms Russian soldiers shopping in the Frankfurt PX. OPs Romeo and Juliet And for the Cav Scouts...well, the Engineer used to was one, so that's really for him to tell. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51951 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51951 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:09:34 -0600 Happy Birthday :) May there may be many happy returns of the day to you, sir. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51945 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51945 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:33:53 -0600 and the wording on the 1Km zone signage reads: "Do Not Proceed Without Authority"... well, hell, everywhere i go, i do it with authority! permission is a whole 'nother matter. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51943 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51943 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:46:53 -0600 pics of GOERS here.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51940 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51940 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:34:00 -0600 Ok for us non-mil types, what is a GOER? And these "zones" you speak of, were they related to the planning for the worst case scenario? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51939 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51939 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:16:52 -0600 We were some of the last Marines to wear the old kevlar plate flak vests. I miss the rope on the right shoulder that kept your rifle sling from sliding off. We also wore steel pots (I kept mine...) I have a P38 on my keychain... I remember shackle sheets... I remember when Henoko was a rocking town (just outside of Camp Schwab)... I still have my M151A1 jeep license. (Heck, I OWNED an M151A2 until not too long ago... Traded it for an M-37...) I remember liberty cards... Our battalion participated in Team Spirit (derned near froze my tail off on some mountain in Korea...) Ahhh, the memories... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51938 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51938 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:43 -0600 the Corps runs on the smell of an old oily rag. They're the poor cousins of the other, richer services. Col. James T. Conway's total annual budget for putting almost 3,000 officers through basic school is a lean $967,031 per year. The Army's "kiddieland" at Fort Bragg, built to baby-sit serving soldiers' offspring (71% of the family-oriented U.S. Army is married), costs five times as much; a month's per diem (hotel and food) for 300 USAF fighter jocks in Italy -- who are too princely to sleep on cots in tents as Marines do -- is about $1 million a month; the cost for a headquarters in Naples to deal with ex-Yugoslavia is $8 million a year, and boy, do the staff weenies there live high on the hog" Continued here]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51936 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51936 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:29:15 -0600 I have no idea who Margaret is .... maybe it's Hotlips Hoolihan. We did have a Navy nurse once. Her name was Elizabeth. Everyone called her Sweaty Betty. She had two love affairs in her whole life. The 2nd Marine Division, and the 7th Fleet. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51935 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51935 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:50:23 -0600 Yes, clean, neat, tidy, with a hint of mothspheroids. Unlike that skanky Jarhead carp. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51934 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51934 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:45:00 -0600 jim b goes to the bar for a Scoresby. Yes a toast. Is it just me, or does it seem to anyone else how all of that Army stuff smells just like an Army Surplus Store? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51933 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51933 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:43:38 -0600 hear hear! a toast! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51932 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51932 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:08:12 -0600 Major Nicholson, either.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51928 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51928 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:02:08 -0600 Here's some more on SMLM... From this website - for the veterans of the US version of SMLM... ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51927 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51927 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:59:30 -0600 Soviet Military Liaison Mission.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51926 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51926 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:56:58 -0600 Here is another one: Smellem Cards! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51925 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51925 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:42:36 -0600 I remember about half of those, and I wasn't in Germany until 2003, and then only for a couple months. The tactics, doctrine, weapons, etc, were what we used everywhere. And of course, AF Sis is right, there's nothing like a great Hummer..... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51923 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51923 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:31:37 -0600 Did Mopp 4 and the 256 kits Claymore- I see the light... I put chains on a Deuce I have 3 P-38's. One on each keyring and one on my dogtags. All of them are taped shut, of course. Authenticate Zulu Romeo on your ceoi John Did you know that if you get enough flick in the wrist, stress cards can fly across the Bn quad? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51922 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51922 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:29:24 -0600 Here are a few more from an old "spook" friend. - If you remember John R.D. Cleland, Paul Gorman and Bill Livsey before Carl Vuono in the 8th ID. - If you have children or grand-children born in military hospitals in Germany....and today they're leading squads, platoons or companies of their own. - If you "still" have skis bought at Mainz Kastel or one of the other American Ski Clubs. - Ditto stereo or camera equipment from Mainz Kastel. - If you remember the local "Crazy-Sexy." We had to at least check it out for the soldiers....really :-) and Dr. Mullers. - You remember pulling courtesy patrol in the bars and whorehouses. - If you knew Ralph Peters when he was a PFC or SP/4.....and as full-of-himself as ever. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51921 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51921 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:12:43 -0600 Two reasons I don't remember any of that stuff. 1. Was never in the Army (thank God) 2. No one is that old. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51920 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51920 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:03:42 -0600 Frank - "Dubious" - haven't heard that one in a while. Musta worked. *His* retirement check is that of LTG... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51919 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51919 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:58:21 -0600 Stormy - not likely. That list was pretty much the "late 70's and 80's" in USAREUR, and the DUKW had been out of service for a looong time by then. I'm hoping for someone to explain that one, however! Maggie - Margaret and Helen were strippers who worked the Graf O'Club and other, less savory, venues. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51918 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51918 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:57:11 -0600 DUKW?]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51917 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51917 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:52:43 -0600 We, of course, being a more refined breed, didn't traffic with all those local lowlifes in REFORGER. We got to spend endless days in in the legendary NTA (also known as Habu Heaven). We learned that Japanese beer is damn good, and the equipment on Japanese dancers is NOT installed sidewase, but it may be a little smaller than that on German models. You didn't mention having to maintain a supply of replacement corks for the caps of those aluminum canteens. I recall battalion C.O.s and First Sergeants that were both WW II and Korea vets. The M-1 (which I recall as all being MST (marred and scared throughout - much like me today) and BARs (God, what a GREAT weapon! A good BAR man could put a full magazine in a group the size of a coffee cup at 300 yards.) And the M1919A3. Gee, what a great idea, all of our basic infantry weapons used the same ammunition. And while it might have been heavier, it would reach out to 1000 yards and punch through a log and still kill the SOBs. One of the great things about C's was that you could wire them on the manifold on a motor march and have a hot meal ready when you stopped. Trooops who lived in squad bays where you not only built a real sense of unit identity, but there wasn't enough privacy for drugs to be a problem, and "don't ask, don't tell" wasn't even on the horizon. Of course, I also remember PRC-6s that weren't worth a crap, M-1 Carbines that wouldn't stop a pissed off parakeet, and the ONTOS. What was Archie Bunker's theme song --- Oh yeah, Those were the days! Semper Fi! Marine6 Sends http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51916 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51916 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:49:44 -0600 a) we finally convinced the monks at the Kreuzberg to let us sell thier heavenly nectar from kegs out of the Wildchicken O-club. b) i have one of the 1KM zone warning signs in my basement (lots of stuff went missing once the border opened) c) any grid can be shacked up in the Blackhorse system d) saw the remains of BMW that managed to sneak up on the sprocket of an AVLB during Reforger ('89?) e) GDP at Fladungen, still have the wall map from the squadron border ops shop. f) never turn the steering wheel of a GOER when the damn thing is off. unless you enjoy watching bucking broncoes. g) the last remaining stocks of jungle fatigues were flushed out of clothing sales and dumped down to Fort Polk, where we were picking them up for $8 a pair and using them like disposable coveralls h) we had one platoon sergeant who had finished Nam as a rifle company commander CPT, and then was riffed back to the ranks. wise man. always had a shoulder you could lean on. i) boneless chicken, crackers, and a john wayne cookie... best C-rats ever. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51914 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51914 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:30:53 -0600 I guess I don't yet qualify as "auld", but some parts of that list takes me back to when I was known as PV2 D! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51912 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51912 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:22:54 -0600 1) Still carry my old P38 on my key ring. Once replaced a carburator on the S3's M151A2 with it ... field expediency! LOL Still got my licenses for the M151, M561, M109, M577, and VW Vanagon. 2) Did a few Jeepex's and CPX's around Windischeschenbach and the Weiden/Oberfalz area. Used to stay at a neat little Gasthaus in Windisch named "der Weisser Schwann", and always stopped by a favorite Bakerei in Kirchendemenreuth. 3) Used to love getting fruit cocktail, sliced peaches/pears, John Wayne bars, and chiclets in the C's, and making ranger cookies. 4) As a "junior EM", never did the O Club at Graf. Instead of the hot Margaret, we usually got some, shall we just say, "less classy" dancers who looked like they were doing PT! LOL I'm sure NONE of the BCs or cadre of the "Double Deuce" would ever do what you claimed, John! LOL 5) Saw an Audi slam into the back of an M60 on the Autobahn on REFORGER 82. Remembered that as the driest field exercise ever ... thank God, since we often positioned in some freshly "fertilized" field! LOL 6) Once took great perverse pleasure in seeing Dubious rush to open a sedan door for Saint and Beavers! LOL 7) Have often wondered if anyone found the set of dog tags I left hanging on a tree at Hohenfels. On a liaison with the 125th Panzerartillerie, they had assured us we would NOT move again that night! LOL 8) "1K Zone" - did a Hof trip. 9) Hated MOPP4, ARTEPS, and being "base piece" shooting illums all night! LOL 10) "SW" - isn't that what we were supposed to used that trussed up Charge 8 white bag, with the 50-foot lanyard, for? LOL http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51910 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51910 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:35:59 -0600 Happy Birthday Keith! Who is Margaret? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51909 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51909 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:35:25 -0600 *drive-by* Most of that stuff is too FRG-specific for me (ennybuddy remember what FRG and GDR stood for? VOPO? NKVD?) Tactical nukes, eh? I remember when a *small* warhead took up a 3x3x5 packing crate. I remember rolling over on my cot and staring at the snow outside through the half-inch gap between the window frame and the wall. Ooog -- wooden barracks (*pre*-beer and -cigarette machines, too). Heh -- had the same experience in Boz, actually, since my SEA hut conex evidently served as a forklift-training target in a previous existence. And I watched a Gamma drive into a lake on a water-crossing exercise right after the driver checked what he *thought* was the drain plug. Took an hour to winch it off the bottom. Got a P38 in the original "How To Use This Can Opener" brown paper wrapper. We also used the blunt end to pop and re-fasten Dzus fasteners. Remember the additional sundries pack that came with each case of C's? That item told you your chow had been canned during WWII (yummm). I got some Lucky Strike Greens in a couple of beanie-weenie meals in RVN. I got a 100% on my Lootenant OER in RVN; it made it through 13th Battalion and 164th Group, then got kicked back from First Aviation Brigade with the comment, "Give him some room for improvement." The Boss changed it to 99% and it went through... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51907 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51907 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:22:51 -0600 Dayum, I'm old! When did that happen? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51905 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51905 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:18:44 -0600 Comrades, 1.) You remember when your canteen was aluminum, and your helmet was steel... You could fill your canteen with coffee and reheat it by placig it in the fire.... you could boil water for coffee and shaving in your helmet... over the fire..... 2.) Placing one of those little tins of peanut butter into the fire when no one else was looking, then excusing yourself for a minute.. or two... 3.) Bartering cigarette rations for chocolate sandwich cookies, or pound cake. Saving those little chiclets for the local kids. 4.) Pork Slices, with water, added 5.) Looking at the date on your "C" rations and realising they were made before you were born..... 6.) Making "Bear Claw" necklaces and "short-timer's" chains from P-38's.... Respects, AW1 Tim (Who now REALLY feels old. In fact, I just may go back to bed and wait for Death to visit)....sheeeeesh.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51904 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51904 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:16:52 -0600 HEH...we used 'ol broke down Gammas on the hand grendade practice range at Ft Jackson...the new troopies had NO IDEA what they were..... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51902 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51902 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:56:59 -0600 1986 M1025 to cruise around in? WHOO HOOO! I haven't met a man yet who didn't enjoy a great Hummer!]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51900 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/10/speaking_of_being_auld.html#comment-51900 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:55:02 -0600