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  <title>Comments for Gunblogger Rendezvous</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2006-10-08T16:45:59Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:42Z</updated>
    <title>Gunblogger Rendezvous</title>
    <summary>Good times! I&apos;ll have more during the week - but let&apos;s cut to the chase. The shooting. First off - SWWBO shoots her first 5.56mm carbine - Say Uncle&apos;s rifle. While I don&apos;t have a pic of her target - her group at 25 yards would fit inside an Eisenhower silver dollar. The Armorer got to shoot many rifles yesterday. Smallest Minority&apos;s M1 Garand (a 1943 Springfield, Danish return), with which the Armorer was able to keep his groups within the black at 25 meters firing rapid fire, and was pinging a spinning target at 425 yards (iron sights). Okay,...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Good times!  I'll have more during the week - but let's cut to the chase.</p>

<p>The shooting.</p>

<p>First off - SWWBO shoots her first 5.56mm carbine - <b><a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/">Say Uncle's</a></b> rifle.</p>

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<p>While I don't have a pic of her target - her group at 25 yards would fit inside an Eisenhower silver dollar.  </p>

<p>The Armorer got to shoot many rifles yesterday.  <b><a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/">Smallest Minority's </a></b>M1 Garand (a 1943 Springfield, Danish return), with which the Armorer was able to keep his groups within the black at 25 meters firing rapid fire, and was pinging a spinning target at 425 yards (iron sights).  Okay, that was after two clips to get the feel.  Hey, 49 year old eyes, iron sights, at that range - I'm happy.</p>

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<p>This is the Armorer blazing away with <a href="http://rivrdog.typepad.com/">Rivrdog's</a>  1945 dated Soviet M44 carbine - shooting battle sights, bayonet extended, supported.</p>

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This is the Armorer's 100 meter target - 11 rounds, fired in two minutes, open sights, supported - all in the black.  The Armorer thinks that's credible shooting for a blind fat guy shooting an $84 rifle with old milsurp ammo.  Why 11?  That's what I had left, natch.</p>

<p>Speaking of cheap milsurp ammo... there are some risks.  Even with what otherwise looks like clean ammo.  <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/D323D1D2B7D9E24/orig.jpg">Lookit the case rupture </a></b>on this copper-washed steelcase combloc fodder.</p>

<p>More later and during the week.  Breakfast, and later, the airport, calls.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-10-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        I didn&apos;t find Nevada, Bill.  The hired help that sits up front did.
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    <published>2006-10-10T11:45:56Z</published>
    <updated>2006-10-10T11:45:56Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2006-10-10</title>
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        <name>cw4(ret)billt</name>
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        Boq - Peace Through Superior Firepower.

Personally, I&apos;m not surprised that John ventilated the black, but I am kinda thunderstruck that he found Nevada...
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    <published>2006-10-10T05:05:28Z</published>
    <updated>2006-10-10T05:05:28Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2006-10-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[Boy-o-boy the snarks keep a commin'.  Great way to aereate a "small" bore rifle target.  Though the same size as an Ike Dollar, I'd rather compare the grouping size to that of a Peace Dollar.

You know what they say: Peace Through Strength

Besides <b><a href="http://www.jeffersoncoinandbullion.com/article14.shtml" rel="nofollow">Teresa</a></b> <b><a href="http://www.raykomkacoins.com/images/july23rd05/DSCN1238.gif" rel="nofollow">Cafarelli de Francisci</a></b> was easier to the eyes than that <b><a href="http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/biog/stimson/gallery/html/General%20Dwight%20D%20Eisenhower.htm" rel="nofollow">Ol' War Dog</a></b>.

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    <published>2006-10-09T15:16:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-10-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        The case ruptures may not be uncommon - and in a bolt gun they&apos;re mostly an annoyance - but in a semi they can be dangerous if they come much farther back than that crack did.
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    <published>2006-10-09T13:37:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2006-10-09</title>
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        Speaking of resonance and vibrations, I think it was Vitruvius who wrote that an artilleryman should be good at music. Gotta tune them catapultae and ballistae just right.

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    <published>2006-10-09T08:21:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2006-10-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Justthisguy</name>
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        Ah, that&apos;s resonant *frequencies.&quot;  Sorry about that.

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    <published>2006-10-09T08:17:43Z</published>
    <updated>2006-10-09T08:17:43Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2006://1.6495-comment:51361</id>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2006-10-09</title>
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        Umm, Trias, I think there is some physics involved; may have to do with resonant frequncies and vibrations, and if the muzzle of the piece is always waving in the same direction each time a bullet comes out of it.

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    <published>2006-10-09T07:56:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2006-10-09</title>
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        <name>Barb</name>
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        Well, John&apos;s not shaped like a rifle cartridge at all.  But a Round, now ...
*scurries away quickly*
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    <published>2006-10-09T05:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2006-10-08</title>
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        The odd shape on the round or on John?
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    <published>2006-10-09T04:43:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2006-10-08</title>
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        Why does the bayonet have to be extended?  Does it balance it or something?

You know i think i&apos;ve only just discovered the round has the bullet which actually flies out but the casing stays where it is.  I finally understand why the odd shape.
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    <published>2006-10-09T04:25:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-10-08</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        And, Ry - the *integral* magazine of the M1 Garand is fed by... a clip.

Clips feed magazines.

Magazines feed the beast.

It is probably the M1 that caused the rift in the space-time continuum that causes the word &quot;clip&quot; to be used in place of &quot;magazine&quot; in the common argot.

Do you need further schooling, weedhopper?

As for the bayonet snarks - the M44 bayonet is an integral folder, and a pointy sticker, at that, and therefore not likely to be misused by me in a manner to produce the effects alluded to by BCR and Brab.

And yes, owners-of-combloc weapons... if your bangstick has a pigsticker option, whether integral or snap-on, the factory default setting is... bayonet attached/extended.  

As Rivrdog found when he extended the tent-peg on his M44 and found... groupness.




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    <published>2006-10-09T03:51:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rivrdog on 2006-10-08</title>
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        The Master pointed out to the Student that the bayonet on an M44 must always be extended while firing.

He is most assuredly right, as I scattered the first five all over a target, but put a respectable (but not as respectable as the Master&apos;s) group together after I extended the pigsticker.

So far, so good on the Windex flush of the weapon after firin g the corrosive ammo.


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    <published>2006-10-09T03:03:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2006-10-08</title>
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        Did he say &apos;clip&apos; instead of &apos;magazine&apos;?  Care to explain, Massa John?
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    <published>2006-10-09T01:58:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2006-10-08</title>
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        Those case ruptures ain&apos;t uncommon- I had more than a few with some 70&apos;s Czech milsurp this summer. But it didn&apos;t affect the functioning of the arm, so no big deal. Sometimes a rupture like that will prevent extraction but that AK kept popping away- we only noticed the ruptures after the fact.
Nice looking range... sigh.
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    <published>2006-10-09T00:42:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2006-10-08</title>
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        I believe the restriction is lifted somewhat when a supervising authority is within range ... ie. the Lady of the Castle.  Since she was present, bayonets may be allowed - as long as OTHERS affix them in place!!
Heh.

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    <published>2006-10-08T21:44:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2006-10-08</title>
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        I thought you were on a strict no-bayonet diet.  Did SWWBO approve?
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    <published>2006-10-08T19:58:24Z</published>
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