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Connecting dots...

First, a picture, courtesy of Haji-o-matic, who comments from the 'Stan.

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Note the Urban Combat uniform...

Finally, an article to tie it all together...

Now it's Bra-vo two zero By TOM NEWTON DUNN, Defence Editor October 10, 2006 ARMY commanders have secretly tested two GIRL troopers to see if they could join the SAS, The Sun can reveal.

The pair performed brilliantly, passing all the endurance tests on the Who Dares Wins unit’s notoriously gruelling selection course.

But they were pulled out at the last minute when top brass who expected them to FAIL realised they were about to SUCCEED.

It was decided the Army was not ready to face a row over dropping current rules which bar women from frontline combat service.

The Sun can also disclose that one of the two potential recruits was a British Asian Muslim — ideal for undercover SAS missions to combat al-Qaeda terrorism.

The soldier, who we will not name to protect her from attack, said: “We both proved we were just as good as any of the men on selection with us. I am confident we would have gone all the way.

“The problem was nobody in the Special Forces establishment thought we would get as far as we did. So they hadn’t thought through how to deal with that.

“It’s a shame because we were both very keen to serve our country at the highest level. And we could have done a good job.”

Read the rest here.

No comment, just postin'.

CAPT H went scouting, and found out where Haji-o-Matic does some of his surfing... or at least the source of the pic - Mitchell's Mausers. However, at $6,500 a copy, the Arsenal will not be adding one of these to the List.

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If you can meet the standard (note the conspicuous lack of gender qualifiers appended to said standard - one for all) and aren't looking for special treatment (like a separate hooch on a two-troop surveillance), I say you should be allowed to do the job. Which set of private parts you happen to have should have no bearing on the issue.
 
Damien, agreed. If true, the wimps / " top brass " who pulled them out haven't got what it takes to fight a war. The gals could have been useful operators.
 
Damien, agreed. If true, the wimps / " top brass " who pulled them out haven't got what it takes to fight a war. The gals could have been useful operators.
 
How did he get my picture? Darn... I really thought that was a "private" photo session.
 
With regard to the photo (of course). I know it's a pose, but it will be interesting to see how many splinters she gets if she actually touches one off. Not that it matters, I am sure Bill will "leap into the breach" and volunteer to remove them for her. I will say this about women in the service. Usually they smell a lot better than the men. However I am not sure that justifies calling them 'long haired air fresheners". I hope she doesn't "creep up" on that scope if she touches one off, or she will become an immediate member of the "red cresent" club, aka "scopeface" club. With regard to women in combat. It just goes against my grain to put women in the Infantry. If those ladies desire to serve, surely SAS training would benefit them well, if they wanted to serve as Intel types. However I wonder how effective females are in gathering "on the ground" spy type intel, when dealing with a society that sees females as property, and does not normally include them in men's work like chopping off heads and planning 911 stuff.
 
jim b - Yup, got the tweezers handy. And if she squeezes off a round using *that* position, she'll be looking at a helluva bruised shoulder, too. Hmmmm -- maybe we'd better stand by to offer solace and massage therapy...
 
Women talk with other women. Gathering intel isn't just talking with the planners. Sometimes it is getting the scuttlebutt from the Man or Woman On The Street. And there are men who do talk to their wives, even in that repressive society. And women overhear things...I guess the Abwehr comes to mind. You'd be surprised at the stuff I learned at coffees when the ladies (and no staff weenie was present) chose to talk.
 
I gotta say I have always been impressed by your selflessness Bill. Kinda brings a tear to the eye.
 
Hew W-K! On the manhunt again, I see. That USMC Meal, must have come & gone real fast, No?
 
Boq... honey.... I'm always up for some BEEF!
 
One more thing. I should hope that Marines don't "come and go real fast". Patience is a virtue, don't you know.
 
Oh Lord - May thine virtue grant me patience; but please hurry!
 
Were-Kitten wins "Line of the Day"!!!!!!! Thank God I am alone in the office. BTW, don't worry, my experience has been that Marines are good for the regroup. Also, they are very focused. Although, I much prefer sailors.
 
Maybe those Jarheads shop here... a new store going up (ahem)in Silverthorne, on the way to Steamboat Springs. I understand these stores are more common in the Midwest but it's the first I've seen in Colorado...
 
This to Cricket: (The others are trolls) Yep, sometimes the female social network just goes all around outside and in between the official male channels. My favorite example is Heisenberg finally getting some uranium to play with because his Mom had lunch regularly with Heinrich Himmler's Mom, who was able to exert some unofficial influence against the Fuehrer's policy forbidding messing with crazy Jewish physics.
 
For those whose curiousity remains unsated: http://www.mauser.org/rifles/blackarrow/index.htm Cheers
 
Trolls, proles, and A-holes, that's us'n! Heh... hey JTG- sorry about rolling you into the moat after lifting yer wallet that time. Those that know, know...
 
Got over it long ago, Neffi. The new bionic body is so cool. And BCR doesn't seem to have put a back door in the software. I mean, I get to disagree with her. That's what I remember. She wouldn't mess with my mind, would she?
 
JTG, I let you disagree with me so I *can* play with your mind. As all felines know, when prey stops moving it is no longer fun. ;-) As for backdoors, I believe that would fall into the Rumsfeldian Category of "known unknowns." Bwahahaha. Hey, girls, don't hog all the Marines--I just need one or two to ... experiment with. I *am* an experimenatalist, you know. Right, JTG?
 
Don't worry BCR- there's always plenty of Marines to hand around! *takes 'Line Of The Day' courtsey.... does really kewl flip up onto chandelier, waiting for unsuspecting prey to walk underneath*
 
"experimenatalist"...? Is that like inducing births of two-headed calves? See! I can too think against BCR's interests!
 
Oh but Neff, You have to understand that the Marines, with their most vaunted “Marine Expeditionary Force” are most adept at: 1)Quick Insertions 2)Rapid Establishment of The Bch. Head 3)And Expedited Extractions For Long – Hard and Sustained Slug-out type of Campaigns, you can count on only one outfit: Pershing’s Own, The Big Red One.
 
Sorry, hard to belive this one. While I was stationed in Europe in the 80’ s and 90’s I had a couple of good friends who were Royal Marines, Gary who was an ML and airborne trained and Hugh who was a weapons man are now retired SNCO combat vets. These guys and the Young Joe I met who was with them in Holland who I know later became SBS showed me some of the loads that they yomped with down in the Falklands and during training up in Scotland and Norway. Neither Gary, Hugh or the Young Joe are what you would call small guys After seeing their load outs and knowing the difficulties they face even while training in Scotland I would have to say that the Sun story has got to have holes in it.
 
Billmil - certainly you aren't suggesting a certain CBS-level of credibility on the part of The Sun? No!
 
I am not taking the Sun story as Gospel Truth when it comes to a lot of things. But the physical requirements for females doing PT and carrying loads changed in the late nineties. Did the British Army follow suit? And I am asking if the changes for PT and other training standards were made across the board, in the para groups as well? Because if they did, then the Sun article might Hold Some Water. Just sayin'
 
Billmil has a point: it would appear that the loads carried by the ladies were less than the SAS standard, 30lbs vice 50+lbs. And they apparently keep old FN rifles so that the troops can carry a proper weapon of war. Some of the details of the SAS Selection Course have been shown on the Discovery Channel, less the gory bits. Cheers