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  <title>Comments for Okay - enough teasing on the Whatzis from Sunday.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2006-08-08T12:43:21Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:37Z</updated>
    <title>Okay - enough teasing on the Whatzis from Sunday.</title>
    <summary>I just left you guys hanging yesterday, in order to give the &quot;I only read Argghhh! from work&quot; guys a chance at the Whatzis. You really did pretty well. Owen got it quickly, and Captain H went a step further and emailed a link (chicken - won&apos;t post openly...) to a write up. They were the first to get it. And, speaking of that, CAPT H - upon further review, I withdraw my statement about this shell being Brit (as I was informed by the guy I bought it from) it *is* the French version of Armstrong&apos;s studded projectile. Oh...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I just left you guys hanging yesterday, in order to give the "I only read Argghhh! from work" guys a chance at the Whatzis.</p>

<p>You really did pretty well.  Owen got it quickly, and Captain H went a step further and <b><a href="http://www.inert-ord.net/19cent/shells/rifled.html">emailed a link</a></b> (chicken - won't post openly...) to a write up.  They were the first to get it.  And, speaking of that, CAPT H - upon further review, I withdraw my statement about this shell being Brit (as I was informed by the guy I bought it from) it *is* the French version of Armstrong's studded projectile.</p>

<p><br />
Oh - and that *was* a shadow guys, not a notch, in the pic.  That was just an artifact of taking the picture, not a deliberate attempt to mislead.  This time.  Owen - your size referent is... 3 inches.  That's the nominal caliber.  Some sources say 3.3, but that would include the studs, at least in my example.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/98A3F0971840E3F/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="Studded artillery projectile"></p>

<p>Zinc, not a lead or copper stud - which strongly argues for it being french and not Brit.  </p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/7A47CB4CC24717F/standard.jpg" border=0 alt="Hosting provided by FotoTime"></p>

<p>This was an early method of rifling artillery - if you notice, the studs are slightly offset, and the studs themselves actually have a direction - the shell was fitted into deep grooves and rammed home.  It worked well enough when the guns were new, and not badly fouled from firing... but it also only worked well with black powder.  When more powerful propellants were used, the friction inherent in this process was too great and the studs just sheared off, and the flight of the projectile was unpredictable.</p>

<p>But with the acquisition of this piece, the artillery collection has representative examples of most major varieties of imparting a spin to the projectile.  Now if I could only find an affordable shell with an *intact* papier maché sabot...</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-08-10</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Actually, that's not true. Jeff Soyer, <b><a href="http://www.alphecca.com/" rel="nofollow">from Alphecca</a></b>, is a regular reader, and is openly gay.  And with 1800-2200 readers a day, there's bound to be more, just closeted in that, unless you choose to reveal yourself, the Castle practices Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Care.

If you choose to reveal yourself, we drop the Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and just practice Don't Care.
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    <published>2006-08-10T11:35:52Z</published>
    <updated>2006-08-10T11:35:52Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2006-08-10</title>
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        <name>Trias</name>
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        I am the only gay in the village castle.

I will be good.
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    <published>2006-08-10T05:39:19Z</published>
    <updated>2006-08-10T05:39:19Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-08-09</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Trias, as our token Gay (everybody else is closeted...) it&apos;s your territory.  You&apos;re the only one who can do so without violating PC Rulez!

Just remember to pay attention to the PG-17c Rulez.
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    <published>2006-08-09T13:23:21Z</published>
    <updated>2006-08-09T13:23:21Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2006-08-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[This post is <s>wide open</s> <s>exposed</s> a target for gay jokes.  I must shaddap.]]>
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    <published>2006-08-09T13:20:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from SezaGeoff on 2006-08-08</title>
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        <name>SezaGeoff</name>
        <uri>http://BMWAUS.com.au</uri>
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        <![CDATA[So where is the picture of the hexagonal Whitworth with a twist?
(that should interest Were-kitten!)
Oops - should use <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/003169.html" rel="nofollow">search</a> more often!
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    <published>2006-08-08T23:55:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2006-08-08</title>
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        Must.Resist.Making.Comment.... MUST RESIST
MUST RESIST
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    <published>2006-08-08T20:30:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-08-08</title>
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        <![CDATA[<i>"the shell was fitted into deep grooves and rammed home..."</i>

*That* was the phrase I thought would bring the 8@)'s out!]]>
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    <published>2006-08-08T19:14:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Masked Menace© on 2006-08-08</title>
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        <![CDATA[<i>The studs are slightly offset</i>

Well, that's certainly appropriate 'round here, ain't it?]]>
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    <published>2006-08-08T18:43:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-08-08</title>
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        That&apos;s a good thing, right?
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    <published>2006-08-08T13:08:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2006-08-08</title>
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        *groan*

you sucketh, JoA.
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    <published>2006-08-08T13:06:57Z</published>
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