We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:51:08 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Yes, I know about the video. No, I'm not going to watch it or link to those who have it. Truth? My own little slice of perspective-driven truth? It's not news any more. The fact that our opponents in the Middle East hack off heads for malicicious, sadistic, makes 'em funny-in-the-pants terroristic purposes is not news. And an orgy about it in the blogosphere and MSM adds nothing to the debate but ups the Google count for those sites hosting the video, linking to it, etc - and spreads the message-by-proxy. I did do Nick Berg. That was then, this... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:43:51 -0600 Two more soldiers who should be alive. We know this is a brutal war. One side though small has no depth to which they will not go. John it's your call. To me showing the video is either or. I have no interest in seeing it personally. As for the claims. They are worth nothing to me. If there is something to be said, let the right claimants make the claim in the right place. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47836 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47836 Thu, 13 Jul 2006 05:13:23 -0600 The purpose of the sadists who made that video and no I do not need to watch it is to try to recruit more mujhadeen to become martyrs. It really isn't anything more than a crude recruiting video. Well I guess the GWOT will continue........which sucks but what else can we do? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47798 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47798 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:39:05 -0600 Bubblehead - like I said, if you need the boost, your resolve on this issue is not a core value. Which means you are correct - those who would lead in this war (and war it is, these are but campaigns ((Hi Dave!)) in a larger context that is but dimly understood by *everyone* (see Hundred Years War for an example) have to periodically do the leadership thing and remind people Why We Fight. Just not here. This is more a place to escape the breathlessness and chill for a bit, chew the fat, and then move back out to the fray. We're one of the pubs on Blog Row. And, since I didn't have anything to add to the breathless-to-sober stuff on other sites, I did what I do best round here. I'm not a pundit, really. I'm not a journalist, either. I'm more a chronicler in the auld sense of the term. And I honor those I chronicle, when apt. It's what I do. Though I do occasionally kick over the traces and get seized by the ranting disease. Dusty is better at that than I am, if we can get him in his cockpit. Which means getting him out of a real cockpit, which makes it *rather* a challenge! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47797 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47797 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:28:42 -0600 Bubblehead, I accept your position but nothing that look at will make me alter my thinking in anyway shape or form. This is as angry as I get and I've been this way for a while. I want you to consider one word for a bit. Dignity. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47796 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47796 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:02:09 -0600 I respectfully disagree with you on this one, while recognizing that your point is very valid. I did watch the video, and while I didn't need the reminder of what we're fighting against, I think there are those who do (not on this site, but other places). It's like the video clips of people jumping from the WTC; we still need to be convinced, as a nation, that the world should learn to fear the reaction of the "American street", and maybe not do the things that would set us off. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47795 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47795 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:40:07 -0600 I agree I want to remember them as soldiers, and I want to thank you for your post about this. Some news really is not fit to print and this is one of those times. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47793 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47793 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:54:43 -0600 Perfect. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47790 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47790 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:01:15 -0600 We're dealing with murders and sadly a media who use the enforcing of 17 UN resolutions in disarming Saddam as an excuse for Sept 11. A little time line smears that little claim. They need no excuse. This is their way. Ours is to stop them and those like them. These two soldiers fell doing just that. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47788 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47788 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:35:54 -0600 If the revenge statement were accurate, it would suggest something fairly frightening regarding the insurgents intel gathering abilities. I don't quite buy it. Thier track record doesn't indicate this kind of ability, to me. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47782 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47782 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:18:45 -0600 You know, it is days like today which make me glad I don't follow the news closely. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47780 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47780 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:03:40 -0600 Amen. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47779 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47779 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:54:21 -0600 Perfect is right! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47771 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47771 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:53:06 -0600 Hence my use of the term "evidentiary vigor". And it almost doesn't matter in the regard - whether a planned or fortuitious propaganda coup, it is what it is. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47769 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47769 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:33:43 -0600 Personally, I think they're using the murder/rape charges as an excuse after-the-fact. If the insurgents were really out for revenge, they would have advertised it BEFORE the killings, or immediately after... not after the funerals. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47767 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47767 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:49:58 -0600 I echo Maggie ... I knew you would remember the most important thing - our soldiers. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47764 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47764 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:06:47 -0600 Perfect. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47759 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/07/sigh.html#comment-47759 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:20:04 -0600