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A series of fortuitous events.

Or how a retired artilleryman found himself traveling to Mexico to help repatriate a US WWII Fletcher-class destroyer back to the United States.

"In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth."

No, that's going a bit *too* far back I think. This is a blog post, not a Bill Whittle essay. Hmmmm.

So, what do Jonah Goldberg, torpedoes, Destroyers, Mexico, and I have in common?

During the March Upcountry, the campaign was being followed on the National Review Online blog, "The Corner," a blog started by Jonah. I was emailing Jonah comments and observations on what was going on, and Jonah started posting some of them. And he called me his "Military Guy," just as Dusty was doing at the same time, earning the sobriquet of "Airpower Guy." (Now the tagline for the blog makes more sense, eh? Well, except for the Sugarbuttons part, but that's a different story). SWWBO was impressed, blogs were new, and suddenly "Argghhh!" appeared on Blogspot. Okay. What's that got to do with me, Mexico, and a destroyer?

Robert Whitehead, inventor of the locomotion torpedo

Well, first, I have to thank Robert Whitehead. Why? He invented the locomotive torpedo in 1868. When Admiral Farragut said "Damn the torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!" on August 5, 1864 at the Battle of Mobile Bay, what he was referring to was, to modern sensibilities, a type of floating mine made out of beer and wine casks.

Now they are a tad more complex.

Navies jumped on this idea - lots of small, fast boats, carrying weapons capable of sinking the big warships. What's not to like? Especially if you can't *afford* those big capital ships yourself? (Lest anyone think that was a quaint, outmoded idea... can you say Boghammer, or talk to the crew of the USS Cole?)

HMS Lightning, the Royal Navy's first torpedo boat.

*That* offended the Battleship Admirals of the Royal Navy, who didn't like the thought of little boats commanded by Ensigns sinking the floating fortresses commanded by Captains and carrying Admirals. Ships commanded by Lieutenant Commanders, perhaps, but not Ensigns! Field Grade, at least!

So in 1886 they developed a new class of ship. Fast, lightly armored, carrying lots of fast-firing weapons and, *koff*, torpedoes. They were intended to deal with the deadly little mosquitoes. And these they grandiosely titled "Torpedo Boat Catchers."

But wait! That was waaaay too passive sounding, so it quickly changed to "Torpedo Boat Destroyers." This was later shortened to "Destroyers." Staff Officers in the halls of power aren't much different now, wanting to change "Happy" to "Glad" and score that medal (see Norman Polmar's article "Perverting the System" in the July 2006 issue of Proceedings)!

Now you know how Destroyers got their designation.

I'll spare you the horrible details of Destroyer Development, despite how much fun I've had reading about it.

Fast forward to 1941, and the next event. December 7. Pearl Harbor. WWII. And now the US is going to go on a shipbuilding binge without parallel in modern history And we're going to need modern destroyers to escort and scout and sub-hunt and bombard shores, etc. Lot's of them.

While we went into the war with several classes of Destroyer, the workhorses of the war were the Fletchers. And this story will revolve around the last of the "High Bridge" Fletchers, DD-574, the USS John Rodgers. The Rodgers received more battle stars from her service in World War II than any other surviving destroyer from that war. Which is one of the reasons we want to keep her out of the hands of the breakers.

After the war, she found herself at loose ends and in storage, when she got a new lease on life - in the Mexican Navy. The ship was transferred to Mexico 1 May 1968. She served in the Mexican Navy as BAM Cuitláhuac, named after Cuitláhuac (?–1520), the second-to-last Aztec emperor of the Mexica.

<i>BAM Cuitláhuac</i>, the ex-<i>USS John Rodgers</i>, DD-574

The Cuitláhuac was retired by the Mexican Navy 16 July 2002—bringing to an end the 60-year history of the Fletchers.

Enter Bob Owens of Confederate Yankee, and Ward Brewer of Beauchamp Tower Corporation (BTC). More details on BTC and Ward's plans for coastal disaster response ships and how all *that* ties to this in a later post.... Ward collects warships like I collect rifles. Obviously, Ward isn't an employee of the government... Ward is also not a fan of the MSM. He wanted the story of the repatriation of the Rodgers to be told by milbloggers, and asked Bob for a recommendation. Bob recommended me.

The Cuitláhuac was transferred to the ownership of U.S.-based nonprofit Beauchamp Tower Corporation on December 7, 2005. She will be moved back to the United States in 2006 and restored, with it ultimately becoming a World War II Pacific Theater Museum.

She starts her tow back the US 1 August, with an expected arrival at Mobile around 15 August.

And I'm going to cover it. We leave Wednesday for the Mexican Navy base at Lázaro Cardenas del Rio to do the final inspection and rig her for tow.

I'm the Project Scribe. And, since I'm the Armorer, I'm also the guy who's going to secure her guns so that the State Department will rest comfortably that we aren't going to be engaging in any piracy while we schlep her back to Mobile, Alabama, not all that far from where she was launched, the Consolidated Steel Corporation shipyards of Orange, Texas.

She'll be met at the International Limit by a Coast Guard cutter and escorted to her temporary home while Customs and the ATFE do their jobs. Several of her former crew will meet her there, going out on the cutter to greet their old ship upon her return.

Now, ain't this just cool? I don't make any money blogging - but this is a nice perk!

Follow the story day by day as it unfolds. I'm also shilling for links to the posts documenting the return of the Rodgers. Mr. Ward Brewer, the leader of our merry band, wants this story to be spread by the blogosphere, and is eschewing the MSM (we are bringing a documentary film crew).

If you'd like to be on the distro list for the posts related to this project, drop me a line at johnbethd*at*yahoo.com and I'll add you to the distro. That's anyone, not just milbloggers!

i'm also looking for bloggers near Mobile, Alabama who would be able to be there 15-18 August when the Rodgers is expected to arrive. You could score a trip out on the Coast Guard cutter with her former crew members who are going out to meet her when she arrives.

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Yo ho, yo ho... from Confederate Yankee on July 24, 2006 11:05 AM

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The USS John Rodgers (DD-574) is coming home courtesy of Beauchamp Tower Corporation. The ship was transferred to Mexico 1 May 1968. She served in the Mexican Navy as BAM Cuitlahuac, named after Cuitláhuac (?–1520), the second-to-last Aztec emperor... Read More

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An Adventure at Sea from The Coalition of the Swilling on July 25, 2006 2:41 PM

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Way cool!
 
This is VERY Cool. Good to see it not going to the breakers.
 
That is so damn cool, John. Yeah... I'm jealous. (of course, I'm jealous of anyone who gets to go to Mexico, then to Mobile, AND hang out with cute lil' Coasties...no matter what the reason is)
 
Well, I'm probably not going to be able to make it Mobile... mebbe we should send Princess Crabby.
 
Be nice to the Coasties and maybe they will give you a tour of their cutter. Sounds like you are going to be having a lot of fun. I remember touring a sister ship the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge last year and you will have plenty to hold your interest and attention. They already have a great museum and restored ship in the river. Plenty of pictures please !
 
Great stuff. 'cept you make an statement that used to be a bone of contention. From my days Regular Navy, I recall that while Army, Marines and Air Force 0-4s (as in Majors)were field grade, in Navy, 0-4 LCDRs were not field grade (you made field grade as an 0-5 or full commander). Or at least LCDRs didn't get the cool stuff on the brims of their covers. Is that still right? D
 
I dunno. Sailors?
 
San Diego sailor is smiling :) I'm going to forward this link to my buddies at work...active duty and retired military. Thanks! Brian
 
oh, sweet! enjoy! (and don't mention Vera Cruz...)
 
Comrades, Yup.... you had to be an 0-5 (Commander) in order to get the scrambled eggs on your bill.... The Navy also has an interesting rank called "Commodore". Essentially, it's only used in wartime. A Navy Captain (0-6) who is eligible for flag-rank may be given a single-star and breveted to the rank of Commodore instead of Rear-Admiral. He gets all the prks and responsibilities of the Rear-=Admiral, but still gets paid as a Captain (0-6). Many times, those eligible are referred to as Commodore in peacetime, as a sign of respect, although to all outward appearances, he is just another Captain. My last tour was on the staff of a Commodore who headed up Patrol Wing Five. Respects, AW1 Tim
 
MajMike - I think I understand - don't discuss our military history vis-a-vis the Mexicans... with the Mexicans. They might take umbrage. I'll probably steer clear of emi/immigration, too. And property taxes. Those torque *everybody*.
 
15-18 August? Hrmm...... I'm currently in Shreveport, LA for at least 2 weeks....so it is possible. Have to see if I can cut away from work long enough to do it.
 
Dates have to be flexible. Since she's under tow, she could get delayed transiting the Canal as well as sidetracked by weather. She survived Typhoon #2 during WWII, we'd hate to lose her in the Gulf of Mexico!
 
Can't help it. When I heard "John of Argghhh" and "Fletcher-class destroyer" together the first things to pop into my head were "Minnow" and "three hour cruise."
 
I had something clever to say but I lost it along with half a cup of coffee with that last comment. John: This is SO cool.
 
Heh. The thing is *not* a bayonet people! Sheesh!
 
[enter Neffi] Bayonet? Huh? Where... oh, it's just that old self-mutilation thing John occasionally indulges. Too farking kool, Armorer!!!
 
Let me see where I am at come 10 August, sir and I'll drop you an E-mail. I know I'm tentatively scheduled to be in Louisiana until August 31st with a garunteed date of August 14th. If we meet the latter only it would be a cinch for me to hop a rental car over to Mobile from here after the Project. Especially as my next destination appears to be Raleigh, NC anyway. I'll get with you once I have a field of view. Too soon to tell for sure as I just got here last night.
 
Just for fun, speaking of ships, I've been researching a Steam/paddleboat designated the City of Shreveport but unless I pay for a Lloyds Martime Registar microfiche I'm not having much luck. You have anything in your extensive library by chance? I do have a picture. Was trying to get it all together for my Live from Shreveport post. But no luck. Now the verdammt thing is driving me crazy while I dig for info on it. Surprisingly even the Chamber of Commerce out of Bossier hadn't heard of it! Maybe I should E-mail Clive Cussler, heh.
 
BS, AFBrother was stationed at Barksdale in Shreveport during the Gulf War, and a few years after. I got to visit him once, in April right after the war. I was amazed at how many engines needing repair filled the hangar. No trip to Shreveport and Bosier City is complete without a trip to your local Daiquiri Express!
 
Hrmm...may have to try that. I wonder if they are open at 7 am? And before anyone gets strange looks, I'm working nights. So 7 am is my bed time currently :)
 
Honestly... they might be. I think they're open 24 hours. scary buncha drunk cajuns....
 
This day has been a long time coming. WB has worked his tail off to get to this day. I just wish my work schedule would allow me time to be in Mobile when she docks and meet the ship mates behind this Historical event. The rest of the ships will follow in the near future.. Dan BTC Texas
 
John, I blog from Mobile and would love to be there. Check my blog, and, if you think I'm up to snuff, gimme the info. I think that ship would look great parked right upside of the Alabama.
 
This sounds like a nice story for one of my favorite professional magazines. They introduced me to the Double M hull that is being used for the US Navy M80 Steletto and they might be interested what you are doing. Anyway, their URL is http://www.proboat.com and thanks for doing this story. Is the shipyard still in business? Many of these old yards have been lost over time and this has left us with a very small number of yards that can build military ships.
 
We're in Pensacola, 45 miles from Mobile. Having blogged Oriskany's final days, how nice to be able to report on one that stays afloat! Consulting the calender to schedule a road trip... {:^)
 
The Navy refers to senior officers, not field grade, and it does start at O5. The grade of Commodore was resurrected, retired again, and has now returned (hopefully without further damnfoolishness) as Rear Admiral of the Lower Half (RDML) which wears one star. Commodore is now used exclusively as a courtesy title for a DESRON commander or in reference to the members of the funk/soul band originally comprised of Thomas McClary, Lionel Richie, Milan Williams, Walter Orange, William King, and Ronald LaPread.
 
My Dad is a tin-can vet, Navy League member, and lives in Mobile, and I would love to get him on the cutter. How can I contact you about this?
 
p.s. He is not a computer user which is why I ask about other methods of contact...thanks
 
Way back in the day, I was stationed with Submarine Squadron Fourteen at Holy Loch, Scotland. Our CO was an O-6, but we referred to him as "Commodore".
 
Figures. I take a long weekend, and the Armorer adds a Fletcher-class destroyer to his collection... In all seriousness, John, pass along our thanks to Mr. Brewer for his hard work. We need touchstones like this to remember what we are - and it's so much the sweeter to save one like the Rodgers, one who has so many stories to tell. I look forward to your reporting. (P.S. go ahead and post all the gory details about destroyer development. I'll read 'em.)
 
Dammit! About the only time I wish I blogged! Heh! Where is she being refitted John? I would love to check the old girl out.
 
I want to see the picture of that DD as the 'JOLLY RODGER' flying the skull and crossbones...... and don't EVEN try to tell me someone didn't think of it and hide a few pictures of such on the high seas... On a related note.. what do you think of US privateers (ie Corp money) bounty hunting priates?
 
Ohh Any bets on there being a picture of that DD flying the JOLLY rodger? I wants one I do ....
 
Well, now I wish I'd thought to bring one... mebbe one of the vets will bring one out for when we bring her into port...
 
Well, another WWII ship sails into Mobile! Last one was the LST 325 on Jan 10, 2001 (currently homeported in Evansville, IN). Mobile is a great town for welcoming these old ships and will treat you right for the duration of your stay (the LST 325 called Mobile home from 2001 to October, 2005). Just don't let Bender Shipyard work on the Rodgers (unless you check their work at the end of every shift). Welcome back to the states USS John Rodgers!! -- Crewmember USS LST 325 Ship Memorial
 
Welcome to Mobile. I represent Ross Maritime / Albatross Maritime, the ship agent for the LST 325 and her arrival into Mobile. If I can be of assistance, please contact me. My office is located on the Alabama State Docks. Carl Black tel 251 432 1611 agency@rossmaritimeusa.com
 
I believe Farragut's actual wording was "Disregard the torpedo's, full flank speed'. Which is fun to mutter in a business meeting, because you can be relatively sure no one will have a clue what you just said.
 
MCart, cite yer source. Not that I care. For all the reasons that no one else will, either. Though your choice of things to mutter at business meetings is approvingly noted. Reminds me of The Crimson Permanent Insurance!
 
Actually, John, my version reads
Damn the torpedoes! Four bells!!
p. 356 The Compact History of the Civil War, COL R. Ernest Dupuy and COL Trevor N. Dupuy, US Army (RET) ISBN 0-446-39432-7 1993 softcover edition Dunno if SE Morison ever wrote about the Battle of Mobile Bay.