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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</description>
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            <title>TINS!* Times Two</title>
            <description>I racked my brain for a while, trying to decide how to spin this turkey highlight certain portions of the tale in order to give you something other than the usual humdrum yawner sedate narrative you’ve come to tolerate expect from me. But I decided against it, because I had a brain stall of galactic proportions wanted to give you an example of how gut-wrenchingly dull prosaically routine most of our missions were… *tongue planted so firmly in cheek you couldn’t budge it with det cord* Instead, I dumped half of it in V29’s lap asked V29 for an assist,...</description>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:34:09 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2006-06-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[AFSis - <i>...even though I know in advance that you guys made it, you never know HOW you made it, or, in some cases... WHY.</i>

Heh--*we* don't know, either...

Boq - <i>The Armorer doesn't like my depiction of Connie and Hubert though.</i>

Connie? Connie Converse flew *jets*, not helicopters. Except for the time he and Corky Myers "appropriated" an amphib to fish my dad out of the middle of Long Island Sound (jets were kinda cranky back in the early fifties)...

74 - Both Two-Niner and I were members of the "My Tho for Lunch Bunch." I'm still trying to figure out how their mess steward eliminated the rice paddy taste from the tea. And we found a one-ton cache of 122mm rockets along the Vam Co Tay one morning--Charles got a little slovenly with his camo mats. I think the ensuing explosion shifted the entire river 20 feet to the south...

Eagle1 - <i>"Hey - you guys are a boat!"</i>

I knew somebody a long time ago who told that story from the cockpit perspective. If the pilot looked like a hobbit in a flight helmet, his name was Gaylord Robinson and held the distinction of being bounced out of the Army for being too *short* to be an aviator--after he finished his year and a half tour.

Lex - Loach drivers were the usual suspects when it came to flying underneath the trees, but that's the advantage of having a 26-foot rotor disk <i>vice</i> a 48-footer. But *we* were the ones who had to go get them when they tried to fly between trees 25 feet apart...

FbL - Hiya, kiddo! Did Were-Kitty ever clean the marshmallow fluff off the divan in the chandelier?]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:11:13 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from FbL on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Great story.  Love the comments, too.  *smiling*
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:24:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Hey.  I was just thinkin&apos;.... if this is a &quot;TINS times two&quot;... wouldn&apos;t that make you guys &quot;TINS TWINS?&quot;

*snicker*
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:59:53 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Blasted Blattid Bastid.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:46:57 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Heee! Another chain successfully yanked. My work here&apos;s done. ;)
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:25:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from lex on 2006-06-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Yer prolly right Bill - except about that landing cross-wise thing. Over the course of my naval career I've twice had the opportunity while running to my jet to launch an Alert 15 to land sprawling across the landing area, having tripped across summat or other.

One of my first CO's flew O-2's in the Black Ponies, and his stuff sure sounded hairy - but he said the real crazies were the Loach (sp?) pilots -rotary wings spinning down <em>below</em> the jungle canopies. Whew.

And thanks from me for savign the Navy's bacon that day in 1970. What a great story.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:07:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Eagle1 on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Re: Joint helo ops. We were cruising off the coast of South Vietnam in 1972 when one of our sailors fell down a ladder or something and got himself smashed up enough that it was too much even for our Navy corpsmen to deal with. We called in a med evac. Army chopper vectored in. I&apos;ll never forget his comment as he arrived &quot;Hey - you guys are a boat!&quot; Made a very careful but very nice landing on flight deck (considering he had skids and not wheels like Navy helos do) and we were able to send off young sailor for repairs. Given all the rigging potentially in the way and all, I admired the willingness of that Army pilot to get his mission done. Don&apos;t know who he was, but he earned my respect...

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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:40:30 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from 74 on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Being a little unclear about boat designations is probably just an aviator thing rather than an Army thing.  The folks at Ft Story don&apos;t have that problem.  Although you Army helo types did have problems figuring out which boat was which, you had no problems figuring out which bases to refuel and rearm from based on the quality of food. Thats why Nha Be was constantly running out of 2.75&quot; rockets.  Proof once again that the Army travels on its stomach.  BTW, my own little vacation along that particular stretch of river (Vam Co Tay) was about a year before your&apos;s.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:27:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Boq - quit whining, wouldja?

Besides, yer wrong.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:14:08 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2006-06-08</title>
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                Great TINS there Boss(ret).  Too bad that The Armorer doesn&apos;t like my depiction of Connie and Hubert though.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:53:14 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2006-06-08</title>
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                I lurv TINS.
Keeps me on the edge of my seat, even though I know in advance that you guys made it, you never know HOW you made it, or, in some cases... WHY.

Very cool.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:57:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2006-06-08</title>
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                uruloki - Don&apos;t apologize for breaking news items like that one in the comment blocks.

OFS - Now you know whodunnit. I did a medevac from one of those bathtub toys you guys drove around in, but never pushed one downstream. And nothin&apos; says &quot;here&apos;s a lotta love from up above&quot; like those 5&quot; Zuni telephone poles the Black Ponies used to use...   
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:15:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Old Fat Sailor on 2006-06-08</title>
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                I haven&apos;t heard that story in a while! Now if that does&apos;t meet the sea-story criteria (&quot;This is no s***!&quot;) I don&apos;t know what does. You guys did some stuff for my outfit up around Tay Ninh City on a few occasions I beleive. We got a mixed bag of support up there, Sea Wolves, Army Air, Black Ponies and even some of Lex&apos;s F-4 driving buddies ( ya never lived till ya use an F-4 for close air support, a 500lb GP does a hell of a job of fire supression). A tip of the ole black beret, OFS late of River Division 594. 
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:58:37 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from uruloki on 2006-06-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[TINS: Zarqawi is dead. Sorry for the comment instead of email, but best way to communicate for me... I have the <a href="http://uruloki.net/lair/2006/06/08/oh-emm-gee/" rel="nofollow">press release up on my site</a>, feel free to snag it.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:21:49 -0600</pubDate>
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