We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:59:47 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification 1. It's an object from the Arsenal. 2. It's about the width of a pencil. Lessee - if I were to give you a hint, I would look principally to a Frenchman for inspiration, although the object itself is not French. Update - obviously, some more hints are in order: Oh, and BCR - flexible - in terms of being all wiggly or something, no. In terms of multiple uses - not by intent, though soldiers are certainly an inventive group and I could think of alternate purposes to which it could be put... including, in fact, one that... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:06:30 -0600 You may. And be more accurate, too. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46345 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46345 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:54:14 -0600 May I suggest "driving band" vice "sabot"? Cheers http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46344 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46344 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:32:30 -0600 i keep thinking Gardner or a Whitworth sniper round... but the froggies also had somekinda triangle base thingie.. stumped. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46320 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46320 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:21:45 -0600 He shoots, he SCORES! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46318 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46318 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:03:24 -0600 John -- Could be... but then again, it might be more because I've spent a lot more time looking at police reports than ordnance. Speaking of which, we just had a captain here court-martialed for trafficking crystal meth. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46317 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46317 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:58:19 -0600 MajMike scores on Phase 1. The frenchman I was referring to was Captain Minie. The principle... I spelled it that way for a reason, was that of base expansion to engage rifling. The next post will move it to Phase 2. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46316 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46316 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:31:01 -0600 Hmmm, Brogonzo. Looks like we've got a little officer/enlisted worldview difference at work here... 8^ D http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46315 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46315 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:29:15 -0600 http://www.civilwarartillery.com/projectiles/rifled/IIIA86and87.htm ..but, that would be for a much larger projo, nothing as skinny as a pencil that i could recall.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46313 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46313 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:24:44 -0600 I have no idea. It eventually started to look like drug paraphernelia, and now I can't see anything else in that photo. So my guess is "crack pipe." http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46312 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46312 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:18:52 -0600 Greater specificity, please, Major. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46311 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46311 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:16:49 -0600 kind of like a Confederate Read-Parrott design?? (but a lot smaller) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46309 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46309 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:58:17 -0600 Oh, and BCR - flexible - in terms of being all wiggly or something, no. In terms of multiple uses - not by intent, though soldiers are certainly an inventive group and I could think of alternate purposes to which it coule be put... including, in fact, one that *I* put it to... some decades after it ceased to be an artifact in general use. It was innovative for it's day, but was only transitional to better designs and approaches - like the Gatling or Gardner guns (ignoring the renaissance enjoyed by the Gatling due to the application of electricity!). And no, it is not related to either of the above. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46307 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46307 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:03:28 -0600 Tim, creative, but nope. Ry - clever boy! But, nope. BCR - The frenchman whom you should derive principle inspiration from was born *after* Lavoisier died. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46306 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46306 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:56:42 -0600 Having looked in the Arsenal(damn dial up at home!) I'm guessing it's something to do with your Vivien-Brassiere grenades. No idea what, yet(damn dial up!). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46305 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46305 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:22:42 -0600 French, mmm? It's the holder for a white flag! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46303 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46303 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:17:40 -0600 is it flexible? Does Lavoisier have anything to do with it? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46302 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46302 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:51:13 -0600 Hmmm. No. Yer both wrong. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46301 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46301 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:26 -0600 Civil-War-era tactical cheese grater! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46300 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46300 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:12:37 -0600 Could dat be a badly chewed-up remains of a .577 Snider boom-boom thingie? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46299 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/06/okay_new_whazzis.html#comment-46299 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:47:59 -0600